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May 10th, 2018, 11:36pm
 
Perhaps it was named the Magic Lap because when you’ve done it, it’s a bit of a surprise, but sure enough, there it was.  I am always pushing a little bit with every ride, anyway and when I came to the end of the second lap, I pulled up the stats, and there it was:
 
Time: 29:52
Av. Speed: 20.05
Max. Speed: 30.68
Weapon: Performer 26” Highracer  
 
Shortly after the day’s riding was over, a guy comes riding by, “How was the ride?”  “I got a new record lap!”  Him: “Time for a beer!”  The “ding, ding, ding!” Was so loud you could hear it across the lake.  The Shiner Bock went down just perfectly, too!  
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Reply #1 - May 11th, 2018, 6:41pm
 
Excellent ride, Key!  And you didn't even need a velo to do it!
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Reply #2 - May 13th, 2018, 4:08pm
 
Quote from rmillay on May 11th, 2018, 6:41pm:
Excellent ride, Key!  And you didn't even need a velo to do it!
Thanks.  Hey, Bob, who are the other open-frame bents who’ve gotten the job done?  I imagine Mark Leuck has, but anyone else?  Mr. Square Corners?
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Reply #3 - May 13th, 2018, 4:33pm
 
Not Daniel, that I know of.  He has the speed, but not the inclination.  I would say Paul B., but I think all his laps were shortened when he went for speed.  Don't know who else.  I couldn't have done it with a tailwind the whole way around!
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Reply #4 - May 16th, 2018, 10:05pm
 
Looks like it’s getting to be a habit at WRL:
Summary of today’s two laps:
 
Lap 1:  
Time  29:53.83
Avg.  21.05 mph
Max.  32.33 mph
 
Lap 2:
Time   30:23.53
Avg.  20.94 mph
Max.  29.93 mph
Vehicle:  Performer 26” Highracer
(Yeah, not a magic lap, but these look like the kind of laps I’ll be doing as weight drops and fitness increases.)  (yay)
Running into Mark Leuck along the way during the “parade lap” didn’t hurt the average, either.  
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Reply #5 - Jun 19th, 2018, 4:27pm
 
That bike is turning out pretty speedy for you Lad!
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Reply #6 - Jun 19th, 2018, 8:08pm
 
Quote from Action Lad on May 10th, 2018, 11:36pm:
Perhaps it was named the Magic Lap because when you’ve done it, it’s a bit of a surprise, but sure enough, there it was.  I am always pushing a little bit with every ride, anyway and when I came to the end of the second lap, I pulled up the stats, and there it was:

Time: 29:52
Av. Speed: 20.05
Max. Speed: 30.68
Weapon: Performer 26” Highracer

Shortly after the day’s riding was over, a guy comes riding by, “How was the ride?”  “I got a new record lap!”  Him: “Time for a beer!”  The “ding, ding, ding!” Was so loud you could hear it across the lake.  The Shiner Bock went down just perfectly, too!  

 
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Reply #7 - Jun 25th, 2018, 1:33pm
 
Need to bring that bike and speed to Northbrook, IL races in July.
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Reply #8 - Jun 27th, 2018, 12:45pm
 
Quote from mleuck on Jun 19th, 2018, 8:08pm:
Quote from Action Lad on May 10th, 2018, 11:36pm:
Perhaps it was named the Magic Lap because when you’ve done it, it’s a bit of a surprise, but sure enough, there it was.  I am always pushing a little bit with every ride, anyway and when I came to the end of the second lap, I pulled up the stats, and there it was:

Time: 29:52
Av. Speed: 20.05
Max. Speed: 30.68
Weapon: Performer 26” Highracer

Shortly after the day’s riding was over, a guy comes riding by, “How was the ride?”  “I got a new record lap!”  Him: “Time for a beer!”  The “ding, ding, ding!” Was so loud you could hear it across the lake.  The Shiner Bock went down just perfectly, too!  


Addictive isn't it?
The beer, or the lap?   Smiley
Anyway, after a parade lap with the Clowns to start things off, yesterday, I went ahead and took a bonus lap, continuing to shake down the Performer Highracer.  It was to be a brisk lap, but was not going all out for any kind of Magic.  If I had shaved 37 seconds, it would have been my third Magic Lap.  The Performer is a time machine. Can’t wait to see how the Musashi performs with a tiller.  
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Reply #9 - Aug 11th, 2018, 7:40pm
 
I'm sure besting 30 minutes could have been done on the Ghost Xstream, but I never timed the full 10+ miles...  Cheesy
 
Now, doing it on the SprintX is also possible, but harder -- but we'll have to see when a good time would be to try it -- too much pedestrian traffic makes it impossible.
 
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Reply #10 - Aug 11th, 2018, 9:19pm
 
Patience, star cruiser pilot!  The days will soon be getting cooler, and darkness setting in early, sending the pedestrians home.  Trikes were made for the night, as you don't have to worry one whit about sand on the corners, wetness, or anything that could bring down a bike unawares at night.  You can go like blazes!  I will be cheering you on for that Magic Lap in a trike.  My specialty is sprinting in a trike, so I'll never see that speed over the course of a WRL lap until the aforementioned blazes freeze over.  
 
Go for it!   Smiley  I'm almost tempted to be a rabbit for you, unless that would be cheating.   Smiley  
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Reply #11 - Aug 12th, 2018, 8:27am
 
My only comparison run on the trike would be the Dallas Senior Games back in March, when I did the 5K and 10K both at almost 22mph average...  with minimal hills, no turns, and no pedestrians.
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Reply #12 - Aug 12th, 2018, 7:42pm
 
Quote from FlyingLaZBoy on Aug 12th, 2018, 8:27am:
My only comparison run on the trike would be the Dallas Senior Games back in March, when I did the 5K and 10K both at almost 22mph average...  with minimal hills, no turns, and no pedestrians.
22 mph avg. on a trike.  That's smokin'.  Unfortunately, the Magic Lap is unsanctioned.  You could get the Clowns to stand at different parts of the lake to ward off the pedestrian silliness and stop traffic, but people just laugh at clowns.  🤡  You'll have all three hazards in place to varying degrees depending on the time of year and the time of day.  Choose the right day, and it's definitely doable.   Smiley
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Reply #13 - Aug 22nd, 2018, 10:24pm
 
So, feeling my oats, I decided to try the Magic Lap tonight, after parking at the south end and making my way up north.  There was minimal wind, and not many people going CCW, although it was 95 degrees or so. My goal was actually to beat 33 minutes - 10% off "magic lap" pace. I decided to start on West Lawther by the bike shop, to avoid cross traffic at Mockingbird.  Mark L rode up to me as I was about to start, to say hi, then I was off.
 
I was moving at 21-22 most of the time on West Lawther, and didn't encounter any slow cars or any issues -- although I lost speed climbing TP Hill, and making my way onto the rail path -- and made it to the Spillway bridge in 12 minutes -- which was encouraging, but I knew the hardest part was still ahead. Climbing the Spillway dropped me to 12mph, and I had already noticed the speed scruboff during hard turns, so it was going to be close.
 
Let's just say that nobody passed me during the entire lap -- However, the climb at the Bathhouse also dropped my speed, and I tried to recover as well as I could after that and around the north end -- but I saw the 30 minute mark pass by on my computer while I was just getting to the north end.  I lost a lot of speed turning onto the path, of course, and finished at just over 32 minutes, averaging ~19.6 -- under my goal, but not officially "Magic".
 

 

 

 
Which brings up the question -- would there a different criteria for "Magic Lap" for a trike, given the 15% or so reduction in speed from a 2-wheeler (at least that I've experienced)?  Hey, whatever...  it was fun giving it a shot, but I don't see myself getting 10% faster anytime soon!
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Reply #14 - Aug 22nd, 2018, 10:33pm
 
You're certainly the fastest open frame trike thus far, as far as I know.  Smiley  
 
I think my fastest lap on the 700 is about 36 minutes, giving it all I had.   Smiley
Perhaps when the temps are cooler I'll give it another go.
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Reply #15 - Aug 23rd, 2018, 10:52am
 
I've done a 28.9 on my carbon trike ..    When it cools off and the wobblers and dog walkers move back indoors I am planning on a run to see if I can get it to 25min  which would be near some of the early velomobile runs I made .
 
I never could break 30 on the 700  Angry
 
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You're certainly the fastest open frame trike thus far, as far as I know.  Smiley  

I think my fastest lap on the 700 is about 36 minutes, giving it all I had.   Smiley
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Reply #16 - Aug 23rd, 2018, 2:11pm
 
So, looking at that map of a magic lap. As far as I can tell when the trail west of the lake splits--left going over to the street, and right going over to the boat house--you guys go right to the boat house, right? I've always gone left and hit the road. I have always done the laps so that I am going down the big hill over the dam. Next time I try for a magic lap I'll try to go by the boat house.
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Reply #17 - Aug 23rd, 2018, 3:45pm
 
You would think the times would be better if you did use the road.
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Reply #18 - Aug 23rd, 2018, 4:18pm
 
I would say use the road and go clownwise.  The dam hill is better going down, and there is no equivalent to going up it that way.  Going the road does add a tenth of a mile or so.  But I should talk.  I couldn't do a magic lap with a motor assist!
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Reply #19 - Aug 23rd, 2018, 8:47pm
 
Oh, by the way, two magic laps in a row last Tuesday, (after a parade lap), on the Performer lowracer:
 
1. 29:52 minutes
 
2. 29:49 minutes
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Reply #20 - Aug 23rd, 2018, 9:08pm
 
As shown by the speed graph, my "pushing" cruising speed for non-sprinting on the trike on flat ground is 20-22mph...  compared to 24-25mph on the Xstream.  A real demonstration of the ~15% number I tend to talk about regarding loss of speed moving to a trike - thanks, Physics!
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Reply #21 - Aug 24th, 2018, 9:34am
 
Okay, thanks for the info. One more thing--do you guys never go out onto west Lawther? Do you stay on that little narrow path the whole way up the west side of the lake? Or do you go out onto west Lawther after the boathouse?
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Reply #22 - Aug 24th, 2018, 12:28pm
 
Quote from reever on Aug 24th, 2018, 9:34am:
Okay, thanks for the info. One more thing--do you guys never go out onto west Lawther? Do you stay on that little narrow path the whole way up the west side of the lake? Or do you go out onto west Lawther after the boathouse?
Hey, Reever!  We don't generally take the right fork to go over the wooden bridge, we stay straight to enter W Lawther, then back into the park, going under the new bridge, still under construction.  We remain on W Lawther all the way to Mockingbird Lane.  So much less foot traffic that way.  
 
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Reply #23 - Aug 24th, 2018, 3:30pm
 
Quote from FlyingLaZBoy on Aug 23rd, 2018, 9:08pm:
As shown by the speed graph, my "pushing" cruising speed for non-sprinting on the trike on flat ground is 20-22mph...  compared to 24-25mph on the Xstream.  A real demonstration of the ~15% number I tend to talk about regarding loss of speed moving to a trike - thanks, Physics!

 
You need to trade the Sprint in for a GS Aero trike.  Cheesy
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Quote from jayg on Aug 24th, 2018, 3:30pm:
Quote from FlyingLaZBoy on Aug 23rd, 2018, 9:08pm:
As shown by the speed graph, my "pushing" cruising speed for non-sprinting on the trike on flat ground is 20-22mph...  compared to 24-25mph on the Xstream.  A real demonstration of the ~15% number I tend to talk about regarding loss of speed moving to a trike - thanks, Physics!


You need to trade the Sprint in for a GS Aero trike.  Cheesy
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Reply #25 - Feb 26th, 2019, 5:51pm
 
As far as I can figure my last lap today was 29:29. This might have been a perfect day for this thing--very little traffic, cool, a bit windy.  A white truck slowed me down to 11.2mph (and scared the hell out of me!!!) doing a K-turn right in front of me backing into a spot in the dirt lot by that new building on the northeast of the lake. I passed a group of recumbents--two trikes, a high racer, and a crank forward something or other. I ended my ride at 1:03:59 and began that lap at 34:30.  
 
Oh, rode my Musashi.
 
https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/3418652649
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Reply #26 - Feb 26th, 2019, 6:29pm
 
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As far as I can figure my last lap today was 29:29. This might have been a perfect day for this thing--very little traffic, cool, a bit windy.  A white truck slowed me down to 11.2mph (and scared the hell out of me!!!) doing a K-turn right in front of me backing into a spot in the dirt lot by that new building on the northeast of the lake. I passed a group of recumbents--two trikes, a high racer, and a crank forward something or other. I ended my ride at 1:03:59 and began that lap at 34:30.

Oh, rode my Musashi.

https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/3418652649

 
Congratulations! Thought that might have been you, after you passed us, and I saw you were on a Musashi. When I saw you in my mirror, thought you might be Mark L, because you looked like you were riding a low racer at warp speed. The crank forward bike you saw was Kenny J's E-bike, powered by Bafang. The "high racer" was actually a M5 carbon mid racer. I was riding it. A couple of us were on the last leg of our fifth lap.
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Reply #27 - Feb 26th, 2019, 8:46pm
 
Quote from reever on Feb 26th, 2019, 5:51pm:
As far as I can figure my last lap today was 29:29. This might have been a perfect day for this thing--very little traffic, cool, a bit windy.  A white truck slowed me down to 11.2mph (and scared the hell out of me!!!) doing a K-turn right in front of me backing into a spot in the dirt lot by that new building on the northeast of the lake. I passed a group of recumbents--two trikes, a high racer, and a crank forward something or other. I ended my ride at 1:03:59 and began that lap at 34:30.

Oh, rode my Musashi.

https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/3418652649

 
 
Way to go Jim. You are in way better shape than me. I wouldn't need that white truck to get me to go 11,2 mph!
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Reply #28 - Feb 27th, 2019, 9:40am
 
Jay, just before I got to you guys I had to go cross country for a bit, as I couldn't make that winding turn that the sidewalk makes after it ducks under the street. I was going too fast to make two turns in a row and had to go through the grass. I'm thankful I didn't bite the dust on that one. Sorry I didn't have time to chat after my two laps were over. I had just driven in from Florida where I'd been riding on the Withlacoochee trail and some other trails out there. Wow, does Florida do their trails right! That thing around White Rock is good, but the trails in Florida are like 12-15 feet wide and go on forever! Congestion is never a problem.
 
Jerry, you have a very short time to whip yourself into shape before we all meet at the Texas Motor Speedway. Can you BELIEVE the College Station games were cancelled again this year????
 
Thank you guys for welcoming me into the magic lap club....society.....brotherhood?????
 
Oh, I just looked on Strava and saw that this segment called the east curve had me ranked 44 out of 11842. Ha! We ought to get a recumbent pace line going someday and see if we could climb that ladder.....
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Reply #29 - Feb 27th, 2019, 10:43am
 
Jim I doubt I'll be much of a factor at the Senior Games. I am battling bronchitis again right now. I'll do my best though.
 
I have ridden the Withlacoochee Trail and General James A. Fleet Trail several times when My daughter lived in Clermont, FL. You should come ride the 37 mile smooth concrete Cotton Belt Trail that loops with the John Barfield, Little Bear Creek, and North Electric that makes it 37 miles.
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Reply #30 - Feb 28th, 2019, 9:59pm
 
Jerry, I got spoiled on those trails in Florida. Wow, are they nice! The difference between Texas and Florida is that the state maintains the trails there and each city kind of takes care of the trails here. It makes for really long, continuous trails. They even have a golf cart thing that has a blower on it to blow the leaves off of the trail. Cool.
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Reply #31 - Mar 2nd, 2019, 6:11am
 
They do have some great trails. They have the money now to connect Dallas with Fort Worth. And the Cotton Belt will tie into that trail and also turn and go to Plano. It will be a few years before completed though. The same nut jobs will be opposing them again.
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Reply #32 - Mar 2nd, 2019, 8:58am
 
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They do have some great trails. They have the money now to connect Dallas with Fort Worth. And the Cotton Belt will tie into that trail and also turn and go to Plano. It will be a few years before completed though. The same nut jobs will be opposing them again.

 
 
There will be a lot of octogenarian Clowns by the time Dallas and Ft. Worth are connected. We could do some birthday "ride-your-age" trips on that route. Of course we'd be on E-trikes with a lot of extra batteries.  Cheesy
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Reply #33 - Mar 2nd, 2019, 10:24am
 
Trikes definitely are harder to get up to speed and maintain speed due to the extra wheel. Some have some killer aerodynamics, but still two wheels are faster than three as a general rule. To me the ability to not have to worry about falling over on your ear at slow speeds is just so cool.
I'll say this....if ActionLad can't do the sub-30 thing on a trike there definitely needs to be a different standard for trikes than bikes. He's not human!!!
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Quote from jayg on Mar 2nd, 2019, 8:58am:
Quote from jrob_bent on Mar 2nd, 2019, 6:11am:
They do have some great trails. They have the money now to connect Dallas with Fort Worth. And the Cotton Belt will tie into that trail and also turn and go to Plano. It will be a few years before completed though. The same nut jobs will be opposing them again.



There will be a lot of octogenarian Clowns by the time Dallas and Ft. Worth are connected. We could do some birthday "ride-your-age" trips on that route. Of course we'd be on E-trikes with a lot of extra batteries.  Cheesy

 
 
Jay you are probably right about the Dallas-Ft Wort trail. I talked to Mayor Trevino today and he says the Cotton Belt Trail will be completed from Grapevine to Richardson in 4 years. That would be a great century ride for me.
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I get about 15 miles per honey bun!
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