Hey, Stradas --
   There's a LSR/RUSA 200K "Permanent" route that starts/ends in Pilot Point, and goes through Celina that you might be interested in arranging a ride for sometime...
 
  http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/El-Caballo-de-Simon    
 
George Evans is the owner...  to do a "Permanent" (for credit) it's suggested to contact the owner at least a couple weeks ahead of time.
 
Any chance you might be interested in doing it on Sunday the 25th, with a 7:30AM-ish start (assuming it's not freezing-a__ cold out...)????    I've got to be back and cleaned up and at the Myerson downtown by 7PM for a concert Terrie is conducting....
 
Paul

Quote from FlyingLaZBoy on Nov 9^th, 2007, 8:57am:

 
Sorry to report that after our 31+ mile White Rock bike ride today ,the knee pain is 100x's worse today than at than at any point in the past. I'm disgusted. Back to Orthopedist Monday. I'm not going to be able to ride anytime soon.
 
Paul,thanks for the heads-up on the permanent. When the doctors can figure out what's going on with my right knee,I'll be able to ride again. Peggy might be able to ride(depending on her work schedule)the Celina route.  

Quote from FooRider on Nov 9^th, 2007, 4:02pm:

 
Nah,the flagpole hill was not the problem(I started feeling the pain along the trail head). No big ring for me. Flagpole hill was middle ring. Discourage me from drinking beer? How about the pain will only AID in my consumption of suds! See you in a few.

Go get 'em,Bud!

Quote from Bud_Bent on Nov 10^th, 2007, 3:37pm:

 
Me too. I have no idea what's going other than after the drive home from White Rock Lake,I could not walk. It took 3-800mg Ibuprofen & 2-500 hydrocodone to mask the pain.

Steve, wow... I'm so sorry to hear of your setback.  What part of the knee hurts?  I had "lateral release" surgery earlier this year, and had to ride my DF for several months afterwards, including 4 months of PT to train my VMO muscle so the patella tracks correctly.
 
Greg - I rode this Perm with Nelson in February.  The store in Forestburg is worth a trip to the back of the store for a sit down burger.  
 
I have designed, but not yet submitted my 1st perm that will start in Sanger, takes 455 to Forestburg.  Then north to St. Jo, up 677 to Spanish Fort.  Then head south to Nacona, Montague, Forestburg and back to Sanger.  It's about 210k.  Lots of climbing, and a real pretty route.  Look for it in early '08.  
 
I'm freezing on the other side of the pond, but will return on the red eye in time to RIF 2 employees late this week, and ride in Italy on the 17th.
 
Ray

Quote from aikigreg on Nov 11^th, 2007, 5:14pm:

 
 
Exterior side/behind  the right knee(just below the knee itself). I was in horrible pain Friday afternoon(not weight bearing at all).

Quote from FlyingLaZBoy on Nov 12^th, 2007, 11:58am:

 
I'm jealous. Enjoy the ride.