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Message started by FlyingLaZBoy on Nov 9th, 2007, 8:57am

Title: El Caballo de Simon Permanent
Post by FlyingLaZBoy on Nov 9th, 2007, 8:57am

Hey, Stradas --
  There's a LSR/RUSA 200K "Permanent" route that starts/ends in Pilot Point, and goes through Celina that you might be interested in arranging a ride for sometime...

 http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/El-Caballo-de-Simon  

George Evans is the owner...  to do a "Permanent" (for credit) it's suggested to contact the owner at least a couple weeks ahead of time.

Any chance you might be interested in doing it on Sunday the 25th, with a 7:30AM-ish start (assuming it's not freezing-a__ cold out...)????    I've got to be back and cleaned up and at the Myerson downtown by 7PM for a concert Terrie is conducting....

Paul

Title: Re: El Caballo de Simon Permanent
Post by Kwijybow on Nov 9th, 2007, 11:04am

This is a great route, highly recommended.  The Forestburg Country Store makes a mean burger!  I did it back in Febuary, and will defintely be riding it sometime on 08.

Take Care,
Nelson.

Title: Re: El Caballo de Simon Permanent
Post by Strada177 on Nov 9th, 2007, 3:53pm


FlyingLaZBoy wrote:
Hey, Stradas --
  There's a LSR/RUSA 200K "Permanent" route that starts/ends in Pilot Point, and goes through Celina that you might be interested in arranging a ride for sometime...

 http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/El-Caballo-de-Simon  

George Evans is the owner...  to do a "Permanent" (for credit) it's suggested to contact the owner at least a couple weeks ahead of time.

Any chance you might be interested in doing it on Sunday the 25th, with a 7:30AM-ish start (assuming it's not freezing-a__ cold out...)????    I've got to be back and cleaned up and at the Myerson downtown by 7PM for a concert Terrie is conducting....

Paul


Sorry to report that after our 31+ mile White Rock bike ride today ,the knee pain is 100x's worse today than at than at any point in the past. I'm disgusted. Back to Orthopedist Monday. I'm not going to be able to ride anytime soon.

Paul,thanks for the heads-up on the permanent. When the doctors can figure out what's going on with my right knee,I'll be able to ride again. Peggy might be able to ride(depending on her work schedule)the Celina route.

Title: Re: El Caballo de Simon Permanent
Post by FooRider on Nov 9th, 2007, 4:02pm


Strada177 wrote:
Sorry to report that after our 31+ mile White Rock bike ride today ,the knee pain is 100x's worse today than at than at any point in the past.

Oh crap. I knew I should have tried harder to discourage you from climbing those hills. In the big ring.

It won't keep you from drinking beer, I hope.

Title: Re: El Caballo de Simon Permanent
Post by Strada177 on Nov 9th, 2007, 4:46pm


FooRider wrote:
[quote author=Strada177 link=1194620277/0#2 date=1194645189]Sorry to report that after our 31+ mile White Rock bike ride today ,the knee pain is 100x's worse today than at than at any point in the past.

Oh crap. I knew I should have tried harder to discourage you from climbing those hills. In the big ring.

It won't keep you from drinking beer, I hope.
[/quote]

Nah,the flagpole hill was not the problem(I started feeling the pain along the trail head). No big ring for me. Flagpole hill was middle ring. Discourage me from drinking beer? How about the pain will only AID in my consumption of suds! See you in a few.

Title: Re: El Caballo de Simon Permanent
Post by Bud_Bent on Nov 9th, 2007, 7:23pm

It combines Lake Ray Roberts with some great North Texas chipseal, hills from the Muenster ride, and a stretch of the FWBA Decatur ride where I bonked and dnf'd in March. What else could I ask for? I'm in.

Title: Re: El Caballo de Simon Permanent
Post by Strada177 on Nov 9th, 2007, 10:30pm

Go get 'em,Bud!

Title: Re: El Caballo de Simon Permanent
Post by Bud_Bent on Nov 10th, 2007, 3:37pm

Dang, Steve, I hope this thing with your knee gets better soon.

Title: Re: El Caballo de Simon Permanent
Post by Strada177 on Nov 10th, 2007, 11:51pm


Bud_Bent wrote:
Dang, Steve, I hope this thing with your knee gets better soon.


Me too. I have no idea what's going other than after the drive home from White Rock Lake,I could not walk. It took 3-800mg Ibuprofen & 2-500 hydrocodone to mask the pain.  

Title: Re: El Caballo de Simon Permanent
Post by aikigreg on Nov 11th, 2007, 5:14pm

Steve - what part of the knee hurts?

Title: Re: El Caballo de Simon Permanent
Post by bikerteam on Nov 11th, 2007, 5:50pm

Steve, wow... I'm so sorry to hear of your setback.  What part of the knee hurts?  I had "lateral release" surgery earlier this year, and had to ride my DF for several months afterwards, including 4 months of PT to train my VMO muscle so the patella tracks correctly.

Greg - I rode this Perm with Nelson in February.  The store in Forestburg is worth a trip to the back of the store for a sit down burger.  

I have designed, but not yet submitted my 1st perm that will start in Sanger, takes 455 to Forestburg.  Then north to St. Jo, up 677 to Spanish Fort.  Then head south to Nacona, Montague, Forestburg and back to Sanger.  It's about 210k.  Lots of climbing, and a real pretty route.  Look for it in early '08.  

I'm freezing on the other side of the pond, but will return on the red eye in time to RIF 2 employees late this week, and ride in Italy on the 17th.

Ray

Title: Re: El Caballo de Simon Permanent
Post by FlyingLaZBoy on Nov 11th, 2007, 6:45pm

OK, Bud, I'll "announce" my plans to do the Caballo on the 25th to the LSR group, and we should get some other participants...  I'm going to request an 8:00AM start time, not 7:30.

Paul

Title: Re: El Caballo de Simon Permanent
Post by Strada177 on Nov 11th, 2007, 10:05pm


aikigreg wrote:
Steve - what part of the knee hurts?



Exterior side/behind  the right knee(just below the knee itself). I was in horrible pain Friday afternoon(not weight bearing at all).

Title: Re: El Caballo de Simon Permanent
Post by FlyingLaZBoy on Nov 12th, 2007, 11:58am

OK, this one is a "go" -- 8AM start, planned 16+ average, typical cruising speed 17-20.  We will plan to stay together as a group, and finish in 9 hours or less total time -- because I've gotta be done by 5!!!

Please contact me directly if you want to join in.  You must be a RUSA member to participate....Please note that the start location is at Lantana Lodge at the west end of FM1192 about 2 miles west of Pilot Point.  Right at Lake Ray Roberts.

Paul

Title: Re: El Caballo de Simon Permanent
Post by Strada177 on Nov 12th, 2007, 12:14pm


FlyingLaZBoy wrote:
OK, this one is a "go" -- 8AM start, planned 16+ average, typical cruising speed 17-20.  We will plan to stay together as a group, and finish in 9 hours or less total time -- because I've gotta be done by 5!!!

Please contact me directly if you want to join in.  You must be a RUSA member to participate....

Paul


I'm jealous. Enjoy the ride.

Title: Re: El Caballo de Simon Permanent
Post by aikigreg on Nov 13th, 2007, 5:08pm


Strada177 wrote:
[quote author=aikigreg link=1194620277/0#9 date=1194822851]Steve - what part of the knee hurts?



Exterior side/behind  the right knee(just below the knee itself). I was in horrible pain Friday afternoon(not weight bearing at all). [/quote]


Yup, sounds like IT band  or torn ligaments.  I'll keep my fingers crossed for the first one, because cortisone and stretching will cure it.

Title: Re: El Caballo de Simon Permanent
Post by FlyingLaZBoy on Nov 13th, 2007, 9:06pm

Please note that the start location is at Lantana Lodge at the west end of FM1192 about 2 miles west of Pilot Point.  Right at Lake Ray Roberts.

Title: Re: El Caballo de Simon Permanent
Post by Strada177 on Nov 13th, 2007, 9:40pm


aikigreg wrote:
[quote author=Strada177 link=1194620277/0#12 date=1194840347][quote author=aikigreg link=1194620277/0#9 date=1194822851]Steve - what part of the knee hurts?



Exterior side/behind  the right knee(just below the knee itself). I was in horrible pain Friday afternoon(not weight bearing at all). [/quote]


Yup, sounds like IT band  or torn ligaments.  I'll keep my fingers crossed for the first one, because cortisone and stretching will cure it.[/quote]


Greg,I saw the Orthopedist on Monday(again) & he thinks the pain is a result from a torn meniscus and or IT band. I had an MRI today & will see the Ortho on Thursday to get the verdict.

I just may show up at the Pilot Point permanent to say "hey!"


Title: Re: El Caballo de Simon Permanent
Post by FlyingLaZBoy on Nov 18th, 2007, 9:45pm

The 200K Caballo de Simon RUSA Permanent will depart at
8AM sharp, on Sunday morning the 25th.  The start location is at
Lantana Lodge at the west end of FM1192 about 2 miles west of Pilot
Point., at Lake Ray Roberts. To get there from the D/FW area, take
US377 north to Pilot Point.  As you approach Pilot Point, take
Business 377 on your left and follow it to FM1192 in the center of
town.  Turn left on FM1192 and follow it 2 miles to Lantana Lodge.

Again, I'm going to try to keep a pretty good clip, getting back by 5PM at the latest.  

Paul

Title: Re: El Caballo de Simon Permanent
Post by Strada177 on Nov 18th, 2007, 10:07pm


FlyingLaZBoy wrote:
The 200K Caballo de Simon RUSA Permanent will depart at
8AM sharp, on Sunday morning the 25th.  The start location is at
Lantana Lodge at the west end of FM1192 about 2 miles west of Pilot
Point., at Lake Ray Roberts. To get there from the D/FW area, take
US377 north to Pilot Point.  As you approach Pilot Point, take
Business 377 on your left and follow it to FM1192 in the center of
town.  Turn left on FM1192 and follow it 2 miles to Lantana Lodge.

Again, I'm going to try to keep a pretty good clip, getting back by 5PM at the latest.  

Paul


Paul,would you like your canopy tent & cot back? I can meet up with you pre-ride next Sunday(if that's convenient)?

-Steve

Title: Re: El Caballo de Simon Permanent
Post by FlyingLaZBoy on Nov 19th, 2007, 4:42pm

That would be great -- c'mon over!

PB

Title: Re: El Caballo de Simon Permanent
Post by Strada177 on Nov 19th, 2007, 8:34pm


FlyingLaZBoy wrote:
That would be great -- c'mon over!

PB


I'll be there, I'll get there early so I won't interfere with your departure time. Who's riding with you?

Title: Re: El Caballo de Simon Permanent
Post by Bud_Bent on Nov 19th, 2007, 10:09pm


Strada177 wrote:
I'll be there, I'll get there early so I won't interfere with your departure time. Who's riding with you?


It sounds like there will be at least 8 riders. I'm planning on riding it.

Title: Re: El Caballo de Simon Permanent
Post by Strada177 on Nov 19th, 2007, 10:46pm

I guess I'm relegated to being a cheerleader?! Just shoot me already.

Title: Re: El Caballo de Simon Permanent
Post by FlyingLaZBoy on Nov 20th, 2007, 10:35am

I've got about 15 RSVPs at the moment   :o

I'm just hoping the rain holds off, 'cause it's gonna be chilly....

Title: Re: El Caballo de Simon Permanent
Post by Bud_Bent on Nov 20th, 2007, 11:33am

Dang, the forecast calls for a high of 53 degrees with showers. Is there a 20 mile version of that route?

Title: Re: El Caballo de Simon Permanent
Post by FlyingLaZBoy on Nov 20th, 2007, 1:35pm


Bud_Bent wrote:
Dang, the forecast calls for a high of 53 degrees with showers. Is there a 20 mile version of that route?



Yes... it's called Joe Pool dam....

Title: Re: El Caballo de Simon Permanent
Post by Bud_Bent on Nov 20th, 2007, 2:02pm


FlyingLaZBoy wrote:
Yes... it's called Joe Pool dam....


And if there's rain on the weather radar that morning, the Joe Pool dam is probably where you'll find my narrow a$$.

Title: Re: El Caballo de Simon Permanent
Post by Strada177 on Nov 20th, 2007, 2:48pm

C'mon FlyingLaZboy,as ride organizer I would think you could accommodate the other cyclists with decent weather(like no rain,lows in the 60's,highs in the 70's)!  Based on the forecast , I'll gladly sit this ride out. I'll be a warm-68 degree home buzzing through the Sunday Ticket NFL games, sitting on MY narrow a*%!

Title: Re: El Caballo de Simon Permanent
Post by Kwijybow on Nov 20th, 2007, 4:25pm

If I remember the elevation profile on this one correctly you're really steadily climbing until Forestburg, and it looks like your going to be heading straight into the wind.  We did a similar condition ride of the route back in Early March and it took awhile, but it was very sweet to have a long tailwind run back along the top of the Lake!


my journal entry for the day

127.40, 09:11:13, 13.87, 38.80
El Caballo de Simon 204K Permanent, 179 general: brevet - solo,  Bacchetta Corsa

Comments: Met Ray and Jeremy for another windy permanent. Spent the first 4 hours bucking a 20+ mph headwind. Very nice when we had it at our backs though. Pretty tough but beautiful day.  
Weather Conditions: 37-53 Degrees 12-25 NNW all day pretty much, but a little lighter after 5pm.  

Have Fun!
Nelson.


Title: Re: El Caballo de Simon Permanent
Post by Bud_Bent on Nov 20th, 2007, 8:49pm

Of course, the ride is still 5 days away, and the forecast will change 5 times between now and then. Let's hope for decent weather.

Is anyone riding Friday? I was thinking about doing my winter ride, but starting from further away from the city.

Title: Re: El Caballo de Simon Permanent
Post by Strada177 on Nov 21st, 2007, 9:16am

Paul,is it too late for Peggy to ride this Sunday?

Title: Re: El Caballo de Simon Permanent
Post by FlyingLaZBoy on Nov 21st, 2007, 8:20pm

It's not too late, but as of the moment, I'm planning on backing out of this little adventure...   With a forecase of 40 degrees and 60% chance of rain, I don't have the clothing for a 200K in that kind of weather.

I've announced to the LSR group that if anyone still wants to do it, I'll be there to provide cue sheets, signature cards, and waivers...  But I'm not riding.

Apologies,
Paul

Title: Re: El Caballo de Simon Permanent
Post by Strada177 on Nov 24th, 2007, 10:15pm


FlyingLaZBoy wrote:
It's not too late, but as of the moment, I'm planning on backing out of this little adventure...   With a forecase of 40 degrees and 60% chance of rain, I don't have the clothing for a 200K in that kind of weather.

I've announced to the LSR group that if anyone still wants to do it, I'll be there to provide cue sheets, signature cards, and waivers...  But I'm not riding.

Apologies,
Paul


Paul,Peggy won't be riding tomorrow due to the weather.  We can make arrangements another time to return your tent/cot.


Title: Re: El Caballo de Simon Permanent
Post by Bud_Bent on Nov 24th, 2007, 10:33pm

I'm glad I got 50 miles in yesterday. Barely 40 degrees and raining isn't working for me this weekend.

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