I'm in the market for a new SWB, and keep coming back to Lightning Cycle Dyanmics.  
 
I've been toying with the idea of getting USS, but may stick with OSS.  If so, I was thinking about either the Phantom or possibly shelling out for a P-38.  
 
Anyone with first hand experience on either of these?  The P-38 is supposed to be fast, even with its upright riding position.  Does it compare favorably with current high-racers such as the Bachetta?
 
Thanks,
DA

I have a year on my P-38, and I'd say it's a wonderful bike.  I can keep up with a paceline that really flies, and power up the hills in short order.  It's everything everyone has said it is.  
 
It's close, but no cigar, to a highracer.  Bud on his Corsa will beat me by .5 to 1 mile an hour generally.  When I switch to my lowracer that reverses, so the aerodynamics of the highracer definately come into play.  Plus the dual big wheels of the highracer really soaks up the bumps on long stretches of chipseal.  So much so that I'm actually going to add a bit of weight to my p-38 in the form of a suspension fork.  
 
Thought about trading it out for a corsa, actually, but this should be a more cost effective option.
 
Feel free to give my p-38 a try sometime if you like.  It's an older one, but still runs great!

Quote from FooRider on Aug 11^th, 2007, 1:35pm:

 
 
That's what decided me to keep the p-38.  I commute on it.

Hey Eddie,
 
Did you get my PM on forks?
 
Richard

Greg,
 
I was just telling Eddie that I had modified the Rans aluminum fork already. He was interested in buying it. They have forks on their website for a reasonable price. I have a 20 inch shock fork, 20 inch front and rear wheel and a Rock Shock (dreams of building a suspended bent) that are brand new but salvaged that I have been trying to give away if your interested. I bought a wheel from REI and they flubbed the order. To compensate they let me have any/as many parts as I wanted from their monstrous stock of parts. These parts were from  moutain bikes that had frame recalls. They stripped the parts off of their new bikes and sent the frames back. He said "take what you want most of this will end up in the dumpster". I hauled of an armload of stuff.

Quote from Richard on Aug 14^th, 2007, 11:15am:

 
 
Yes, please!  I'd love the shock fork and wheel if it's not dibbed out already!

Greg,
 
I will bring the fork & shock to HHH. If anyone wants the 20" wheelset, I will bring it too.  
 
Richard

Well,  
 
I'm going to go to Plano Cycling and try some of the high-racers.  I'm only 5 7", and so I might see if they have a Corsa 24".  If they don't, or I don't like the dual 26", I may just pick up one of the phantoms they have at RBM and put a 20" wheel on the front.  
 
I thought about a Giro 20, but I'd been happy with the Lightnings, and they seem a little lighter.
 
-DA

I appreciate the posting.  I didn't get a chance to go by today, but it would have been a bust with no floow models.
 
Any thoughts on a Giro 20 vs a Phantom with a 20" front wheel?
 
-DA

Diana,
If DA isn't interested, let me know.....I may be ready for something with a shorter wheel base.  
Linda

Quote from diannalightning on Aug 21^st, 2007, 8:17pm:

 
Yep, I'm that Linda.  I'll try to call sometime this week.  I kinda got distracted from the bike as my son's deployment ended Monday when his ship pulled into Pearl Harbor.  Then he shows up at home last night on leave.  I didn't know until yesterday that he was getting first leave, so I'm scrambling to take off work and work around his schedule of visiting other relatives.  I'm sure not complaining....just dang proud to see him.  He may be 30, but in this momma's heart he's still my baby boy.  
Linda

I don't know about that one. The ad states it's a LWB and has "lots of gears". Sounds like a scam.
 

 
Opus

I agree that the Stealth is mis-categorized as LWB.  I also think that it's priced a little high.  They stopped making the stealth (now called the phantom), and so it's not a very new version of this bike.  
 
Dianna, I'll give Linda first dibs.  I've had two thunderbolts.  While I've loved them, I think I'm going to get something a little lighter and with better components.  
 
Thanks though,
DA

Linda/Richard I have the Thunderbolt at home and I think from your remarks about the Campion Trail being under water, we probably don't live that far apart.  Just call me if you want to meet or come to see/test ride the Thunderbolt.  She's in the garage.