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Aug 1st, 2011, 6:38pm
 
Since I have a lot of free time on my hands, I decided to run some coast-down tests on the five high-performance recumbents I own to determine which is the fastest. The fastest should be the one with the lowest combination of air and rolling resistance. Hope the following report will be of interest to at least some of the members who are into high performance recumbents. I spent parts of the past two days making a total of 22 runs down the steep concrete path that parallels the spillway at WRL.
 
All the recumbents are equipped with high-performance, smooth-tread tires. I pressured the front tires to 110 psi and the rears to 115 psi. I crossed the starting point at approximately 15 mph and coasted until each recumbent reached its maximum speed. All of the runs were made under no-wind conditions at 100 degrees, plus. I made a minimum of three runs per recumbent and averaged the results. Average maximum speeds were as follows:
 
  a. 2010 Optima Baron – 26.8 mph
  b. 2011 Catbike Musashi – 26.7 mph
  c. 2009 Carbent Raven – 26.1 mph
  d. 2007 Catrike Speed w/26” rear wheel conversion kit – 25.8 mph
  e. 2009 RANS X-Stream – 25.2 mph
 
The above results can’t be used to judge relative cranking effort, because from my experience the Musashi requires less cranking effort than the Baron, and the X-Stream requires less cranking effort than the Speed at elevated speeds on the flats. My subjective opinion of cranking effort required to maintain a 21 mph cruising speed on the flats from least to maximum by recumbent is as follows:
 
  a. Musashi
  b. Baron
  c. Carbent
  d. X-Stream
  e. Speed    
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Reply #1 - Aug 1st, 2011, 7:45pm
 
Thanks Jay  Smiley Smiley Smiley
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Reply #2 - Aug 1st, 2011, 8:15pm
 
Heat's really getting to you is'nt it.
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Reply #3 - Aug 1st, 2011, 8:17pm
 
That good info jay, If i remember correctly on my trike when i do about 10 or 11 mph on the crest and i get right at 27 mph at the bottom.. Pretty close to ya..
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Reply #4 - Aug 1st, 2011, 8:28pm
 
Quote from johnnybent on Aug 1st, 2011, 8:15pm:
Heat's really getting to you is'nt it.  

 
You're just saying that because you're riding one of those slow X-Streams.  Grin  
 
 
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Reply #5 - Aug 1st, 2011, 8:31pm
 
You callin' me slow? Well...I'll just have to put one of them sun shades on it then.
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Reply #6 - Aug 1st, 2011, 8:45pm
 
Quote from johnnybent on Aug 1st, 2011, 8:31pm:
You callin' me slow? Well...I'll just have to put one of them sun shades on it then.

 
You need to get with Kenny. He has the plans and material list.  Smiley
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Reply #7 - Aug 1st, 2011, 10:08pm
 
Quote from jayg on Aug 1st, 2011, 6:38pm:
Since I have a lot of free time on my hands, I decided to run some coast-down tests on the five high-performance recumbents I own to determine which is the fastest.

 
"Smoke 'em if you got 'em!!!"   Smiley
 
Pretty cool little test there, Jay...  I'm not too surprised, since the XStream is probably the least "laid back" of them all.  
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Reply #8 - Aug 1st, 2011, 11:21pm
 
Coast down figures are fairly irrelevant, but a good power meter can eliminate all that guesswork!
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Reply #9 - Aug 2nd, 2011, 2:59pm
 
Quote from aikigreg on Aug 1st, 2011, 11:21pm:
Coast down figures are fairly irrelevant, but a good power meter can eliminate all that guesswork!

 
 
 I agree
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Reply #10 - Aug 2nd, 2011, 4:29pm
 
Quote from aikigreg on Aug 1st, 2011, 11:21pm:
Coast down figures are fairly irrelevant, but a good power meter can eliminate all that guesswork!

Not entirely irrelevant, coastdown will give a comparison at the initial speed or for the same hill. While it won't give hard numbers it will still give relative strengths.
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Reply #11 - Aug 2nd, 2011, 4:51pm
 
Coast down is too affected by gravity. If you load the bikes enough to make them weigh the same, you get a better test.
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Reply #12 - Aug 2nd, 2011, 7:07pm
 
Quote from Bud_Bent on Aug 2nd, 2011, 4:51pm:
Coast down is too affected by gravity. If you load the bikes enough to make them weigh the same, you get a better test.

 
I've seen a similar statement (weight as a variable) made in some coast-down testing literature, but no explanation was given. Weight affects rolling resistance, so maybe that was the reason for the statement. Bob M. reminded me the other day that we learned in our physics courses that in a vacuum all free falling objects accelerate at the same rate, independent of mass. Aerodynamics accounts for the difference in terminal velocities of two free falling objects in the atmosphere, not their weights. This (along with other minor variables, such as rolling resistance) sounded reasonable to me to explain the differences in various recumbents' terminal velocities attained during roll-down tests on inclines.
 
I think the variables that introduced the biggest errors in my test results were the varying running start speeds (I was shooting for 15 mph), computer inaccuracies, and the winding concrete path. According to literature, I should have selected a 1/4 mile long straight slope of at least 5%, and should have utilized standing starts.  
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Reply #13 - Aug 2nd, 2011, 7:35pm
 
Sounds good Jay...I said what i said becuase of to many varables as grease in wheels and rear freewheel drag and to tires differences and weight . But what you did is close enough for what your doing.I was thinking the baron should have won but it didn't.  
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Reply #14 - Aug 2nd, 2011, 8:16pm
 
Quote from aikigreg on Aug 1st, 2011, 11:21pm:
Coast down figures are fairly irrelevant, but a good power meter can eliminate all that guesswork!

 
Don't agree that coast-down test results are irrelevent, if the tests are properly conducted, but a power meter would definitely be a much better way to go. If I was Mark Cuban, I would have some Power Tap wheels built up for my bikes, and run some more tests. Smiley  
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