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RBENT "starter" century/100K concept for Spring?
Dec 20th, 2008, 4:52pm
 
Lynn Morrow and I were talking this morning about the Rando ride concept, and that she's interested in trying longer rides, but is intimidated by our typical postings of 17+ pace.  Now considering that she did RAGBRAI this year, putting in over 600 miles in a week, I don't really think she's got much to worry about, but it's a valid point, nonetheless, because you don't want to be left for solo on something like that if you can avoid it.
 
SO....  that got me to thinking we could arrange an RBENT "Newbie Century" ride sometime in the spring, aimed at those riders who have perhaps thought about doing a 100-miler but either have never done it or have only done it once or twice and though "never again"...   This would be a relatively flat course, with various rest stops scheduled, and at a CONTROLLED, no-drop pace averaging maybe 14-15 mph overall.  We might even approach it with one of the LSR Populaire route events, I dunno -- but it seems like a fun idea to me for some weekend day.  Heck, we might even get Sadowski out for it...    Wink
 
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Re: RBENT "starter" century ride concept for Sprin
Reply #1 - Dec 20th, 2008, 7:50pm
 
I will by no means be ready for a full century this spring, but would definitely be interested for the following spring.
 
How about a series of gradually longer training rides to help build up to a full century.
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Reply #2 - Dec 20th, 2008, 8:41pm
 
I would like to build up to some centurys during 2009.  I don't know if I can average 15 mph right now.  What is a good pace for a Stratus?  I know you can go faster on the SWB.  I probably will never be a Rando but I would be interested in 60 to 100 under the right circumstances.  I enjoy reading the Rando rides but probably don't want to devote the whole day to something like that.  I pay on hitting a lot of the pay rides during 2009 so maybe that will be enough to satisfy my riding desires.
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Reply #3 - Dec 20th, 2008, 9:27pm
 
The controlled pace is a good idea. But I have to say the only reason I did my first local group ride was because it was listed as 10-12 no drop social and even then it was a worry. 14-15 would be a really really good day for me on a century. Even though I have ridden over 100 miles and would want to go I don't know if I could keep up with the pace realiably.
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Reply #4 - Dec 21st, 2008, 9:52am
 
I just had a thought.  Though it would be nice to have some planning assistance, encouragement and company from the guys that ride centuries for breakfast, we could get a few of us together to train for it ourselves.
 
How about starting with a no-drop ride of 30-40 miles.  See what our avg speed is and then as a group set goals to improve.  
 
I know that I can easily do 20-25 miles on the Trinity Trails.  They are relatively flat and my avg speed the first time was 11.7 MPH on a 22 mile ride.  I feel really comfortable that I could extend that to 30-40 miles and pick up the pace to 12-14 MPH over a couple of rides.
 
Anyone interested in a no drop 30-40 mile ride on the Trinity Trails in Jan. (weather permitting of course)?  Or any other relatively flat route suggestions?  I've never ridden the Airport loop that is talked about here, but I understand that it is relatively flat as well.
 
The goal of the first ride would be to establish a benchmark for the group in terms of avg speed and then to determine appropriate goals that lead towards riding centuries with the big boys and girls.  
 
 
 
 
 
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Reply #5 - Dec 21st, 2008, 1:47pm
 
One of the LSR populaires might be a good route for a first century. As I recall, the Covington Coaster Populaire route was my first century.
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Re: RBENT "starter" century ride concept for Sprin
Reply #6 - Dec 22nd, 2008, 10:02am
 
Obviously, any particular "challenge distance" can be organized...  I was proposing a century, but the "100K" 62-mile concept is another good target, especially for spring...   My first-ever century (on the EZ-1!) was actually a January ride that the GDB organized by taking their normal "Airport Ride" and extending it to three loops around the airport, with rest stops at the Shell...   Up to that point, I had never done a ride longer than 50 miles, but was doing 40-milers fairly consistently on the GDB Distance Builder rides every weekend.
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Re: RBENT "starter" century/100K concept for Sprin
Reply #7 - Dec 22nd, 2008, 10:06am
 
Quote from Tim C. on Dec 20th, 2008, 8:41pm:
I would like to build up to some centurys during 2009.  I don't know if I can average 15 mph right now.  What is a good pace for a Stratus?  I know you can go faster on the SWB.

 
A "good pace" is whatever you can hold consistently...  that's the beauty of the recumbent, in that bodily soreness is not going to contribute toward cutting your ride short.  I know a couple in California that do at least one 100K a week, but they go about 10 mph...
 
And why would someone be faster on a SWB?  Other than a difference in bike weight, there's no reason, really...
 
Sounds like there's actually more potential interest in organizing a 100K in the short term - whatever works!!!
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Reply #8 - Dec 22nd, 2008, 11:51am
 
The other thing that should be pointed out is that while LSR is one of the biggest randonneuring groups around, and has a bunch of very strong riders, there are lots of randonneurs who aren't racers, and you don't have to be that fast to make the course time limits. Obviously, it is nice to have others your speed to ride with, both for safety and help in case of a mechanical (besides being more fun). There's no better place than the shorter populaires, and even a 100 mile one like we're discussing here, to get started and find other riders who are near your own speed. Once you have randonneuring friends near your speed, you can favor rides which those friends are doing. That's what most of us do.
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Re: RBENT "starter" century/100K concept for Sprin
Reply #9 - Dec 22nd, 2008, 5:43pm
 
And let me piggyback off Bud by saying that NONE of us were century riders when we first started.  Bud only did his first century last year.  And when he, Paul, and I started riding together and "re-invigorated" rbent, I don't think I'd done more than 30 miles or so.  The great thing was we all worked on it together.  Bud and I rode together a couple times a week most every weeks, and started doing the club rides and then eventually the short LSR populaires, and worked our way up to long stuff.   I can remember barely making it through many a ride before I built up to what I do now, so I know for a fact anyone can do it, because if I can, anyone can.  All of it just takes time.  He doesn't say a ton on here, but powerbent is a big inspiration.  So is Mark Leuck if you know his back story.
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Reply #10 - Dec 24th, 2008, 10:02am
 
John and I had talked about doing a Whiterock Hundred. Just start early and make laps for a hundred miles. Stop when you like. Something easy just working on distance.
 
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Re: RBENT "starter" century/100K concept for Sprin
Reply #11 - Dec 24th, 2008, 11:05am
 
Is whiterock clearish this time of year? I have only been once and I always wondered if that just happened to be the day everyone decided to head out and walk their dogs and kiddies.
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Re: RBENT "starter" century/100K concept for Sprin
Reply #12 - Dec 24th, 2008, 8:04pm
 
I really like the idea of some longer, but not fast rides.  I would prefer rides starting at 100k and working up to 100 miles at an average speed of under a 15mph .  I normally ride about 55 miles with the Eastside ride on Saturdays (including the distance from home to the start and back) so feel very comfortable at that distance.  I need the longer rides to work on my nutritional balance.  It was a lack of sustained nutrition that almost did me in on my first and so far only century on Labor Day.
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Reply #13 - Dec 25th, 2008, 10:21am
 
I love this idea. Steve and I are also century newbies , we did our first century at Hotter then Hell August 2007 ,then the next month at the Texas time trials(thanks to Bud & Paul).  
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Reply #14 - Dec 26th, 2008, 2:33pm
 
I am so glad Paul started this topic.  I have been wanting to do longer rides for quite sometime but will not ride alone on public roads.
Safety in numbers and all that.  I don't care if we start at 100k or 100m.  Lets just do it.  We will all get better and faster.
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