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Aug 2nd, 2008, 8:48pm
 
I lived, I finished the 200k within the time guidelines now i'm going to take a nap  Smiley
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Reply #1 - Aug 2nd, 2008, 8:52pm
 
Glad you finished ok, Mark. I was wishing I had your phone number to check on you when we finished. This is a good reminder that we should all have each other's phone numbers on these long rides. I have a pickup, and could have gone and picked up someone and their bike if they needed it. Glad you didn't.
 
Like these brevets often do, this one seemed like an epic adventure. Around 30 of us left Italy, Tx at 6:30 am, with most riders doing the 300k brevet. As always, I opted for the 200k. The first disappointment came quickly: FM667, just south of Italy had new chipseal, and it went all the way to our turnoff onto SH31 at mile 25. The 300k group was hammering quickly, at a pace too fast for me, and I fell off the back of the group before that turn. Even with a slow start, riding mostly on rough chipseal, going against the wind, and falling off the group, I still had an 18 mph average at mile 25.
 
When the lead group stopped at the first control in Dawson at mile 28, they were in and out of the store faster than any brevet group I've ever seen. George Elizondo was standing in line behind me, waiting to get his brevet card signed at the counter, when they took off. His mouth dropped open; he had intended on leaving with them.
 
Steve, Peggy, and I left a few minutes later, and kept a more reasonable pace against the wind after that. When Peggy stopped a few miles later to investigate a Camelbak leak, Sharon Stevens joined us, and rode with us the rest of the way to Mexia (which was her control stop; she was doing the 300k). We continued on to Groesbeck for our control stop at mile 64.
 
We stopped a bit longer at this control, but still tried to get going fairly quickly to get as far down the road as we could before the heat got too bad. With all the new chipseal at the beginning of this ride, it now has an awfully lot of chipseal, and that combined with the heat had my feet really screaming before we reached the next control, which is the famous Dixie's Little Stop at Mount Calm, mile 93. Steve and Peggy were both also complaining of their feet, so we all shed shoes at this stop.
 
I don't know what the official high temperature was today, but by the time we made that 93 mile control, the heat was really oppressive. I usually tolerate heat very well, but I had to admit to feeling as wiped out at this control as I have in a while. I wondered how I'd hold up the rest of the way, and since we were still 38 miles from the finish, we all agreed to make an unscheduled stop or two on the last stretch. As we left Dixie's, we spotted Richard Wittenburg just about to pull into the control. Peggy said she thought he was doing the 300k, and even though I know he's a strong rider, we were all amazed that he had gotten this far already.
 
Steve and Peggy are some kind of strong riders. They still had the energy to sprint for city limit signs and such on this stretch. I was content to just try to pedal myself in, riding behind them. Even though we were now headed mostly north, the wind was so southwest, it still felt like a head wind at times. But, our average speed was showing gains now, so it had to be a tail wind a good bit of the time, too. The bad part of a tail wind on a 100+ degree afternoon is that with no breeze on you, a slower speed up a hill gets you with almost unbearable heat.
 
We made an unscheduled stop in Malone at mile 109 to cool off and give our feet another break. I downed an RC Cola to see if the caffeine and sugar would help. I still felt pretty wiped out, but was turning the pedals ok. We stopped on a shady sidewalk in Milford, 6 miles from the finish, getting another soft drink from a machine, and resting our feet one more time. As we were packing up to take off again, Richard rode by. We were blown away, thinking that a 300k rider was going to finish before us. I should have known what was going to happen next...
 
After dropping a bottle, and having to go back for it, Steve went zipping past Peggy and I, and I had a feeling that I knew what was on his mind. Somehow I found the energy to speed up too, and did 20 to 21 mph most of the rest of the way in. I didn't come close to catching Steve, but I caught and passed Richard, as did Peggy behind me. It turned out he was just doing the 200k, too. He had gotten started a bit late, and had stomach issues early. It's a good reminder that, in this kind of heat, even strong riders can easily have a tough day. Richard said his watch was showing a temperature of 109 while riding.
 
I finished the ride in 10:24, with a 15.9 mph average, and a total of 131.8 miles. My gps showed 3100 feet of climbing on the route. As always, it was great riding with Steve and Peggy. I suspect I slowed them down a bit today, but it was the kind of day that being slowed down a bit probably helped them. I told Rose I was going to be pretty worthless tomorrow. She asked me what else was new...
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Re: August 2nd LSR 200k and 300k brevets
Reply #2 - Aug 2nd, 2008, 9:23pm
 
Other than the 13ish miles that T and I did early this morning, the most strenuous thing I did (outside) today was mow my back yard...  my outside thermometer showed 103 in the shade all afternoon, even still at 6:30.  Glad everybody made it through!!!!  Sorry to hear about that new chipseal...   lips sealed
 
And Bud, you're definitely right about the heat effect of tailwinds...
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Reply #3 - Aug 2nd, 2008, 9:30pm
 
Quote from FlyingLaZBoy on Aug 2nd, 2008, 9:23pm:
Glad everybody made it through!!!!

 
Actually, that's not everyone. We're still waiting to hear from Greg and Steve, who were doing the 300k.
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Reply #4 - Aug 3rd, 2008, 7:37am
 
EV,that's a relief that you made it in. All three of us were worried about you & riding in the heat(we did wait a few extra minutes at the later controls hoping you would catch up). And yes ,as Bud stated ,we should have exchange cell #'s prior to the ride. With that said,congratulations on completing the ride within the time limit.Well done.
 
I can't add anything to Bud's report("good job") other than to say that the rando events never disappoint, every ride is different & presents it's own set of challenges(mentally & physically). What a day?! This ride was about surviving the heat(as Peggy called it-heat training). For Peggy & I ,this ride was about knowing that we(Peggy & I ) could ride in the heat for 131+ miles. Mission accomplished.
 
Bud,you did NOT slow us down in the least. You helped pace us. I've learned a lot in the last 4/5 rando rides(and continue to learn) ,and the biggest thing is to pace yourself. You helped with that yesterday. The sprint for the last 5 miles was fun. I reached 25+mph ,but was mostly between 22-23 mph. I finished with a 16.1 average. I could see a distinct outline in my mirror(with the glare, it was difficult to make out who it was...I thought it was Peggy. It was Bud sprinting in).
 
Peggy rode well(strong as usual). More importantly ,she managed the heat better(thanks to Greg's suggestion for an extra water bottle,and Ray Torrey for the heads up on twofish water bottles).
 
Finally,let's hope that Greg & Steve had no issues & we're able to finish their ride as well(I'm sure they're fine ,as both are really strong riders).  
 
 
 
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Reply #5 - Aug 3rd, 2008, 11:33am
 
Is the air cooling for your helmet not keeping you cool with 100+ degree air blowing through it?
Do you have some extra ice that is just going to melt and cool down some rocks if you don't use it?
Did your MP3 player decide to stop working on mile 97 of a 134* mile ride and the endless corn fields driving you mad?
Intoducing the temperature controlled fuzzy logit helmet chiller

Field tested through multiple versions in the middle of no where with over 35 successful miles tested!
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Overall 9 hours and 50 minutes of riding time.
Trip was 12 hours and 22 minutes overall.
Consumed over 4 gallons of fluids (water, electrolyte water, a little ensure+protien, gatorade)
One piece of chocolate pie
Stopped 6+ times because of my failing brainbag zipper even though it is supported by my rear rack so I didnt' think I'd have any problems
Lost my bite valve in the last two miles which was the only thing I dropped that I didn't turn back to get.
I don't think anyone on the 300k finished before me! One of the upright riders I saw at the last stop said he normally got passed about 10 mile out of italy by some.
 
*Missed Double D stop 2 and had to hunt for it. I couldn't see the Double D on the Valero until I was going the opposite way.
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Reply #6 - Aug 3rd, 2008, 11:36am
 
Italy Brevet 200k:
     I used this as a heat training ride. To learn how to manage my heat issues. I used a cold cloth all day ( this made a big difference in holding core temp. down)
Steve also put an extra water cage on my bike ( Thanks Ray love the 2 fish)and to Greg for reminding me to use cold water to cool off while riding!I didn't have any of my typical  heat related problems yesterday. I did feel strong all day long I was able to work on some sprints several times. I think I could have ridden harder, but that was not what this was about, it was to learn how to balance speed, effort, number of stops in the heat.
 
This is a great route mostly flat, last30 miles have some great rollers, a lot a chip seal. (yuk)
 
Bud and Steve as always thank you for riding with me, I love the company and coaching or in Steve case the sprint training( riding for city, county signs)I'm just not able to beat him on a sprint. He tapant's me at ever sign letting me think I might be able to win then he just pulls away to win the sign. What a creep, but his my lovable creep.
Greg and Steve I hope all went well on your first 300k. I'm sure it did you have trained for it all year.
Evblazer congratulations on completing your 2nd 2ook , this a was a difficult one in the heat.  
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Re: August 2nd LSR 200k and 300k brevets
Reply #7 - Aug 3rd, 2008, 11:49am
 
Quote from evblazer on Aug 3rd, 2008, 11:33am:
Is the air cooling for your helmet not keeping you cool with 100+ degree air blowing through it?
Do you have some extra ice that is just going to melt and cool down some rocks if you don't use it?
Did your MP3 player decide to stop working on mile 97 of a 134* mile ride and the endless corn fields driving you mad?
Intoducing the temperature controlled fuzzy logit helmet chiller
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3066/2728762422_c08fed0132_m.jpg
Field tested through multiple versions in the middle of no where with over 35 successful miles tested!
/end commercial Cheesy

Overall 9 hours and 50 minutes of riding time.
Trip was 12 hours and 22 minutes overall.
Consumed over 4 gallons of fluids (water, electrolyte water, a little ensure+protien, gatorade)
One piece of chocolate pie
Stopped 6+ times because of my failing brainbag zipper even though it is supported by my rear rack so I didnt' think I'd have any problems
Lost my bite valve in the last two miles which was the only thing I dropped that I didn't turn back to get.

*Missed Double D stop 2 and had to hunt for it. I couldn't see the Double D on the Valero until I was going the opposite way.

 
 
4 Gallons of fluids?? Missing bite valve, can't find the control ,AND we're doing this for fun 100+ degree temps?  So how do you feel today?? I bet you want view corn fields in the same way as you did previously!  
 
 
As a side note,this topic came up yesterday on our ride...thanks to our wonderful LSR/Rbent friends ,in 2008 Peggy & I have now ridden in 30 degrees of frigid cold(thanks Nelson & Ray)in February & now 105 degree pizza oven(thanks Bud)heat in August. A 75 degree swing in temperature. What does this mean?
 
A)-we're nuts
B)- I would rather be hot than cold.
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Reply #8 - Aug 3rd, 2008, 12:15pm
 
Quote from Strada177 on Nov 10th, 1973, 5:16am:

A)-we're nuts
B)- I would rather be hot than cold.

I still got my ski goggles and all kinds of winter gear from when I used to ride in the connecticut winters. I can even fit studs on my giro if needed.
BRING ON THE SNOW, BRING ON THE SLEET!!! Becoming a mobile steam generator, having to lay in the snow to cool off, building a little snowman on your rear rack and trying to get home with it surviving. What more fun could you want?
 
 
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Reply #9 - Aug 3rd, 2008, 1:23pm
 
Quote from Brad Bedell on Aug 3rd, 2008, 12:45pm:
It was a reasonably uneventful ride considering it was the 2nd time out on the Baron AND my first century + for the year. I set out to do the 300k, but at mile 53 or so, I made the decision to make it a 200k ride instead. My body just wasn't adapted to the new riding position enough to spend the extra time on the bike, not to mention, I wasn't keeping a high enough pace to finish in time to make the Rangers game last night.

Missed the water stop at mile 93(?) Ran out of water at mile 95. Around mile 115, I found the Penelope Pitstop to be good for a quick coke and refill of water. Being behind the curve on hydration, I knew I had to back off and get recovered; I was at a 17.2 average when I backed off and finished with a 16.4 average with just under 8 hours of riding time. No cramping or heat related problems. I finished 4th overall on the 200k. Sharon, Daniel and someone else passed me at my unscheduled rest stop in Penelope. I did feel like a fried egg served sunny side up after the event.

To do it again, I'd take both water bladders and pack a bit better. I'd hit it harder out of the gate and take a proper lunch break. I didn't eat anything but Gel, energy bars and Gatorade. I didn't bonk, but my energy had dropped by the end due to the light dehydration at mile 100.

Good to see everyone out on the rides and congratulations on finishing! It was a tough day in the heat. They advertised 107 degrees for the high at the Rangers game, so I know it was hot.

 
Ok, there's a couple of things here that don't make sense to me. If you were signed up for the 300k, you can't switch to the 200k. You have to either ride the 300k or DNF (did not finish). And LSR's rules specifically say they don't want anyone riding who's not carrying a brevet card. I would hope that all us recumbent riders would respect their rules.
 
I don't know about Daniel, but Sharon told us she was riding the 300k, so it's unlikely that it was her who passed you.
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Reply #10 - Aug 3rd, 2008, 3:52pm
 
Greg and I made it okay, but that was the worst I've felt on a long ride.  Turns out I was feeling the start of some kind of stomach bug, and it made dealing with the heat that much worse.  We took lots of long breaks in the A/C where we could find it, and brought it in just after midnight.  My computer only showed us to have been rolling for 12 hours, so that made for something in excess of 5 hours spent stopped.  Seems like a long time, but probably time well spent in yesterday's heat.
 
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Reply #11 - Aug 3rd, 2008, 4:53pm
 
Quote from Brad Bedell on Aug 3rd, 2008, 4:20pm:

It's really quite simple. I know my body and I know my limits. Regardless if I am training on a ride or in a race. If my body even mildly suggests that it is not going to finish a ride safely, or within my long term goals, I will modify the course as necessary. I'd rather receive a DNF or a DQ than a trip to the ER, long term injury or worse.

I would expect a fellow cyclist, such as yourself, to not imply that a rider to push themselves to the point of injury or put themselves in harm's way just so as to not 'break' a loosely written rule. I know LSR's creators would agree with this. Safety should be a top priority for all riders.

 
What planet are you on? I didn't imply any such thing. And it's not a loosely written rule, it's explicitly spelled out. I don't see where riding brevets without a brevet card and changing distances has anything to do with safety. Riding straight in from the point you switched distances would have been the safer move, wouldn't it? Hello???? Anybody home there?
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Reply #12 - Aug 3rd, 2008, 5:00pm
 
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Bud,you did NOT slow us down in the least. You helped pace us. I've learned a lot in the last 4/5 rando rides(and continue to learn) ,and the biggest thing is to pace yourself.

Finally,let's hope that Greg & Steve had no issues & we're able to finish their ride as well(I'm sure they're fine ,as both are really strong riders)


 
 
Steve - you've hit the nail on the head when it comes to rando riding.  You've got to me more of a Steady Freddy than a Racing Rick.
 
Greg and Steve had a couple issues, but we made it.  Finished at 12:07am.  Took so dang long that the same clerk at the store saw us leaving and arriving!   Shocked
 
I feel blessed to be able to complete such a ride in these conditions, even though I must be, as my Mother-in-Law told me for 10 minutes straight this morning, a complete idiot for doing it.
 
Steve is an absolute ironman for finishing this sucker as bad off as he obviously was.  
 
Mark, my hat's off to you too.  I DNF'd this exact 200k last year at mil 93 no less, and it was a lot cooler last summer, so you should feel very proud of your accomplishment, without doubt.
 
every one of these rides is a learning experience.  I think I learned more from this one than I wanted to.
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Reply #13 - Aug 3rd, 2008, 5:01pm
 
Quote from barlows on Aug 3rd, 2008, 3:52pm:
Greg and I made it okay, but that was the worst I've felt on a long ride. Turns out I was feeling the start of some kind of stomach bug, and it made dealing with the heat that much worse. We took lots of long breaks in the A/C where we could find it, and brought it in just after midnight. My computer only showed us to have been rolling for 12 hours, so that made for something in excess of 5 hours spent stopped. Seems like a long time, but probably time well spent in yesterday's heat.

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Glad to you you two made it in ok. The heat was brutal enough, I wondered about all the 300k riders. Congrats to you both on your first 300k completed.
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Reply #14 - Aug 3rd, 2008, 5:07pm
 
Oh, and Steve still managed to outsprint me that last mile at the end.......what a beast!   Shocked
 
Can't tell you how many gallons of liquid I had, but I can tell you the garmin says I expended 12,300 calories!
 
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