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Reply #15 - Sep 5th, 2008, 9:39am
 
Yeah Paul can take my spot  Smiley
 
Was doing a little google maps research and unless you went down 377 all the way them looped east around 455/428 and then back up 377 there doesnt' seem to be that much out there. At least from the aerial view it looks like alot of dirt roads through those farms, or those horrible crushed tan stone stuff.
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Reply #16 - Sep 5th, 2008, 9:49am
 
Oh There are a lot of fun roads, but be forewarned its VERY hard to avoid Chip Seal throughout the North Texas Area, bring your cushy tires.  
 
I'll make a route proposal in a few days, but in general I'm looking at  
 
Pilot Point
Tioga
Gunter
Howe
Tom Bean
Blue Ridge
Melissa
Weston
Celina
Aubrey
Pilot Point
 
I suggest some other people draw up routes as well,  We can vote.
I intend to mix in a lot of small roads I know.
 
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Reply #17 - Sep 5th, 2008, 10:29am
 
Just to make sure I assume people want a loop, which is legal, although not the best type of route for a Dart, the other option that we could consider is a straight in route.  This is either logistically challenging, or adds considerable extra riding.  I toyed with the idea of parking at Pilot Point and riding out somewhere, camping, sleeping, hoteling etc and then riding back at the start time, more Dartish.
 
One of my ideas for that was say from the Mineral Wells motel, or a nice State Park (lots of options)
 
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Reply #18 - Sep 5th, 2008, 10:41am
 
Hi Nelson - after our 2XDart, aka Fleche in 2007, I think we learned how hard it is logistically for a point-to-point route.  As long as a loop is permitted for a Dart, I would recommend it.
 
A loop also gives you the ability to ride in both a head and tail wind.  If you remember our Fleche, point-to-point we battled a a fierce head wind to 100 plus miles.  
 
I'm looking foward to the Dart.  Even though our Fleche was extremely difficult, it's a great team event, primarily because you have to stay together, and finish together, AS A TEAM....
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Reply #19 - Sep 5th, 2008, 11:30am
 
Hmmmmm, I hadn't even thought of a point to point ride. With it being October, odds are we'll have better weather than y'all did on that Fleche, but I guess we could still end up with a headwind the whole ride. A point to point route does sound like a grand adventure, though.
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Reply #20 - Sep 5th, 2008, 2:54pm
 
Bud - for unknown reasons, Nelson and I are surrounded by some type of vortex that always results in grand adventures.
 
Have you (Bud) sent anything to Dan D., or whoever the Dart contact is letting them know we plan on having a team?  I've not kept up with the correspondence, thus don't know the due dates for route submission, etc...
 
Also, how many rbent riders want to ride a Dart? Is there enough interest for more than one team?
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Reply #21 - Sep 5th, 2008, 7:09pm
 
Maybe we could ride one of those casino buses up to Oklahoma, then ride bikes back south from there...   Wink  Taking advantage of the probable north wind tailwind...
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Reply #22 - Sep 5th, 2008, 7:09pm
 
Quote from bikerteam on Sep 5th, 2008, 2:54pm:
Bud - for unknown reasons, Nelson and I are surrounded by some type of vortex that always results in grand adventures.

Have you (Bud) sent anything to Dan D., or whoever the Dart contact is letting them know we plan on having a team? I've not kept up with the correspondence, thus don't know the due dates for route submission, etc...

 
I replied to George Evans by email right after we got a team together, and told him we had a team. I think the next thing we need to do is submit a route. I'll check and see when the deadline is.
 
So, to verify, our team is:
 
Me
Greg
Nelson
Ray
Paul
 
Greg, are you still in?
 
Paul, it's just as well that you won't be on the X-Stream. By RUSA Dart rules, "At least 25 km must have been ridden between the end of the 10th hour and the 12th hour of the ride." That means we have to use most of the 12 hours to complete our 180k, so you aren't going to be Speedy Gonzales on that ride anyway.
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Reply #23 - Sep 5th, 2008, 8:54pm
 
yeah man I'm in like Flynn/
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Reply #24 - Sep 5th, 2008, 9:27pm
 
Quote from Bud_Bent on Sep 5th, 2008, 7:09pm:

Paul, it's just as well that you won't be on the X-Stream. By RUSA Dart rules, "At least 25 km must have been ridden between the end of the 10th hour and the 12th hour of the ride." That means we have to use most of the 12 hours to complete our 180k, so you aren't going to be Speedy Gonzales on that ride anyway.

 
 
Wow, I wasn't aware of that...  Interesting -- I wonder what the reasoning is for intentionally keeping down the pace???  All my 200Ks so far have been ~9.5 hours -- heck, where's my EZ-3 trike???   Cheesy
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Reply #25 - Sep 5th, 2008, 10:41pm
 
George replied and said he thought 30 days prior is the general rule for having a route turned in, so we need to get it done in the next two or three weeks.
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Reply #26 - Sep 5th, 2008, 11:28pm
 
I guess I got George cranked up on the Dart. He posted this message in the LSR google group. Here's his schedule for the Dart teams:
 
1. Identify captains and team members - Friday, 12 Sept
2. Sign and send waivers - Saturday, 20 Sept
3. Send routes and schedules - Thursday 25 Sept
 
I'll go ahead and send him the info on the team. Will everyone on the team download, print out, and sign the waiver? You can download it here. George says after signing it, you can scan it and email it to him, hand it to him at the September 20th brevets, or snail mail it to him. Email him here.  
 
Still working on our route, Nelson?
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Reply #27 - Sep 6th, 2008, 12:30am
 
Hi Bud,
 
  Yes I'll post it via Bikely on Sunday I hope.  If a loop is OK?  A little hectic here until then (I just got home from Sarah's HS football game and band performance here at 12:30 so not going to work on it this evening!)
 
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Reply #28 - Sep 8th, 2008, 8:50am
 
Do we need to name our Dart team?
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Reply #29 - Sep 8th, 2008, 3:02pm
 
Here is a possible route for your perusal.  Let me know what you think.
 
 
http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Dart-3
 
 
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