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Re: Honey Do 200K Permanent Brevet
Reply #30 - Dec 5^th, 2007, 7:42pm

Just a quick note about cassettes, there are 2 versions of SRAM's 11-34 cassette, a road version that has most of its 9 cogs in the upper end (up to the 11 tooth cog) and has much bigger gaps in the lower end of the cassette. The MTB cassette has the gaps between the cogs even from the 11 all the way to the 34 tooth cog. I have heard on other fora that most 'bent pilots prefer the MTB version as we use the whole range all the time instead of the typical road rider using the cassette in combination with a compact crank to get triple range without having to carry the extra chainring and the less reliable triple front derailler (just paraphrasing what others have said, my triple derailler works just like my old double derailler).

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Re: Honey Do 200K Permanent Brevet
Reply #31 - Dec 5^th, 2007, 9:02pm

Quote from Opus the Poet on Dec 5^th, 2007, 7:42pm:

Just a quick note about cassettes, there are 2 versions of SRAM's 11-34 cassette, a road version that has most of its 9 cogs in the upper end (up to the 11 tooth cog) and has much bigger gaps in the lower end of the cassette. The MTB cassette has the gaps between the cogs even from the 11 all the way to the 34 tooth cog.

After believing that myself, the last bit of research I did seemed to disprove it. Cassettes that were 2006 or older had the bigger gaps in the big gears; 2007 cassettes were more evenly spaced.

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Re: Honey Do 200K Permanent Brevet
Reply #32 - Dec 6^th, 2007, 4:17pm

Quote from Bud_Bent on Dec 5^th, 2007, 9:02pm:

Quote from Opus the Poet on Dec 5^th, 2007, 7:42pm:

Just a quick note about cassettes, there are 2 versions of SRAM's 11-34 cassette, a road version that has most of its 9 cogs in the upper end (up to the 11 tooth cog) and has much bigger gaps in the lower end of the cassette. The MTB cassette has the gaps between the cogs even from the 11 all the way to the 34 tooth cog.

After believing that myself, the last bit of research I did seemed to disprove it. Cassettes that were 2006 or older had the bigger gaps in the big gears; 2007 cassettes were more evenly spaced.

Good to know because I'm taking my Strada over to PCF tomorrow to have the cassette replaced(3,600+ miles) & have the cables checked,cranks changed(maybe??),etc...

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Re: Honey Do 200K Permanent Brevet
Reply #33 - Dec 6^th, 2007, 8:20pm

I actually liked the old setup better. Most of the gears were more similar to road cassettes, a small jump between gears, with just a couple of big gears which I would only use on big climbs. With the new cassettes, the more even spacing all the way to the big gears means there's a bigger jump between all the gears.

I tried ordering Sram PG970 cassettes in the old style online twice. Both times, I received the new style. Both the online store and ebay seller had 2006 photos showing, but actually sent me the 2007 cassettes.

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Re: Honey Do 200K Permanent Brevet
Reply #34 - Dec 7^th, 2007, 6:44pm

Quote from Bud_Bent on Dec 6^th, 2007, 8:20pm:

I actually liked the old setup better. Most of the gears were more similar to road cassettes, a small jump between gears, with just a couple of big gears which I would only use on big climbs. With the new cassettes, the more even spacing all the way to the big gears means there's a bigger jump between all the gears.

I tried ordering Sram PG970 cassettes in the old style online twice. Both times, I received the new style. Both the online store and ebay seller had 2006 photos showing, but actually sent me the 2007 cassettes.

I had a new cassette installed. PCF bike tech said there was some pretty good wear on the teeth(none bent like Peggy's. I could have gotten another 500 miles out of the current cassette,but since the bike was already there...). Bud,I did have a rear derailer cable that was corroded. New cable ,brake checked & cables lubed & everything is good. I too went with the Shimano Ultegra 12-27 cassette.

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Re: Honey Do 200K Permanent Brevet
Reply #35 - Dec 7^th, 2007, 8:11pm

Quote from Strada177 on Dec 7^th, 2007, 6:44pm:

I had a new cassette installed. PCF bike tech said there was some pretty good wear on the teeth(none bent like Peggy's. I could have gotten another 500 miles out of the current cassette,but since the bike was already there...). Bud,I did have a rear derailer cable that was corroded. New cable ,brake checked & cables lubed & everything is good. I too went with the Shimano Ultegra 12-27 cassette.

My cable broke on the shifter end, all the way up in the little metal piece that's on the end of the cable. I was going to ask Mark Metcalfe how often he replaces his cables, but I never saw him on the dam this week.

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Killer Bee Five Star Member CA2.0 proto type Posts: 1308	Re: Honey Do 200K Permanent Brevet Reply #36 - Dec 7^th, 2007, 8:58pm The cable broke at the shifter end? Is that location for a cable break pretty unusual?
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Re: Honey Do 200K Permanent Brevet
Reply #37 - Dec 7^th, 2007, 9:11pm

Quote from Strada177 on Dec 7^th, 2007, 8:58pm:

The cable broke at the shifter end? Is that location for a cable break pretty unusual?

No, that's the end the pulling is being done on, and it's feeling all the friction all the way to the other end. The first cable housing at the shifter end of mine was tight on the end. A bit of prying in the end of the cable housing with a small allen wrench made the new cable slide easier. That tight spot probably sped up wear on the old cable.

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Re: Honey Do 200K Permanent Brevet
Reply #38 - Dec 7^th, 2007, 9:33pm

It seems its always an end with mine, usually the end that broke on Bud's, near the shifter, but I've seen them break at the end near the crimp on the derailleur as well. They are small so I always carry a spare now, just change them when they break (which isn't very often), need to pick up a spare brake cable though, as I stole my spare a while back for some project. I know about the derailleur set screw trick from having done it myself in the past (I didn't carry no spares in the eighties, that would've weighed me down!) Funny how much I cared about bike weight when I myself weighed about a bike and half less than I do know!

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