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FWD Watch your RD/Foot possible interaction
Apr 5^th, 2010, 9:06pm

I would highly suggest a spoke guard inside the cassette (dork disc?) for FWD where you could hit the RD with your foot if at all possible. Funny story as I rode my bike to get just that item Smiley

I had the limit screws set but I somehow knocked it at some point on my ride. Later going down a hill at about 25 I shifted the wrong way and the chain took a dive into my cassette. I was able to instantly get both my feet unclipped but having the front wheel lockup and lose all the spokes on the right side is an interesting experience.

One spoke actually held off on the cassette side but the other 15 were torn very quickly. The baron came up a few minutes later so at least Mark got to see the new cruzbike frame.

Not really sure what the plan is. I think the hub might be toast or at least the freewheel and/or cassette along with the rear derailleur. Might be time for the internal hub I was thinking about.

Edit: actually.. I guess it is time to just hang it up for a while.. maybe revisit it later or sell outthe cruzbike parts as a kit or something.

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JimFPU Five Star Member RBENT member, now in Virginia. I miss Texas! Posts: 1011	Re: FWD Watch your RD/Foot possible interaction Reply #1 - Apr 6^th, 2010, 7:35am Let me know if you're going to part out the CB stuff! Let's start with the broken parts! That hub still looks OK to me, just needs new spokes...or did the holes tear out some? hard to tell...
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FlyingLaZBoy Moderator '16 ICE SprintX fs, '16 Rocket, '12 KHS Mocha Posts: 5803	Re: FWD Watch your RD/Foot possible interaction Reply #2 - Apr 6^th, 2010, 8:19am LOSE ALL SPOKES ON THE RIGHT SIDE!!!?????!!!! That must have made a HECK of a noise!!!! Glad you controlled the stop....
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Re: FWD Watch your RD/Foot possible interaction
Reply #3 - Apr 6^th, 2010, 10:17am

Quote from FlyingLaZBoy on Apr 6^th, 2010, 8:19am:

LOSE ALL SPOKES ON THE RIGHT SIDE!!!?????!!!!

That must have made a HECK of a noise!!!! Glad you controlled the stop.... Smiley

1 spoke survived the drive side wonder but I don't think it helped too much. The noise wasn't that much more then missing a shift what really got me was the sudden stop and heavy wobbling up front.

I think the freewheel might be damaged because there was not that much space in there for a chain to fit and where the lock ring it looks a little bulged out. I'm going to try and pull the cassette to get the chain out and see if the freewheel looks good but they aren't too expensive to change out.
RD is toast or at least I wouldn't trust it since it is pretty banged up. Hanger is bent so that needs to be replaced I'm going to check the front triangle it looked a little loose but it could just be there were so many pivots. I'm going to wait a couple days to decide what to do.

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Re: FWD Watch your RD/Foot possible interaction
Reply #4 - Apr 6^th, 2010, 7:25pm

What I couldn't see before taking the chain off.
Looks like the chain did a good job not only taking out the spokes but machining my hub down.

Took a good bite out of one part

If i was 100 lbs lighter maybe.. but it took a good chunk of metal off an already lightweight wheel so if I do something I think I gotta replace it.

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Kwijybow Five Star Member mostly a commuter Posts: 1026	Re: FWD Watch your RD/Foot possible interaction Reply #5 - Apr 6^th, 2010, 9:51pm Mark looks like you can build'em and break'em with the best of'em! Glad you're not injured!
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Opus the Poet Five Star Member rbent member Posts: 1353	Re: FWD Watch your RD/Foot possible interaction Reply #6 - Apr 6^th, 2010, 10:32pm Looks like you need to drop by PCF and order a pieplate (spoke protector) for your next wheel.
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Re: FWD Watch your RD/Foot possible interaction
Reply #7 - Apr 7^th, 2010, 9:34am

Quote from Opus the Poet on Apr 6^th, 2010, 10:32pm:

Looks like you need to drop by PCF and order a pieplate (spoke protector) for your next wheel. Smiley

Would you believe I had intended on buying one on the ride I was on and the ride before but the store woulda been closed before I got there the first time.
I don't think the hurricane has one but I'm really not worried about it on that bike. I have jammed a chain before on a RWD and it nicked a spoke or two nothing more and then the tire just skidded. That and the derrailiuer and jockey wheels aren't so exposed since they are back under the rack and seat. With the moving bottom bracket and derailleurs are all is just sorta spinning around and the bike has fallen more then once. What I may need is one of those MTB bashguards for the derailleur as well as the spoke protector. Or just an internally geared hub might do it which if I get a new wheel is probably what I'll get. I always wanted to try out an IGH. Oy but not for so much.. maybe I'll just have to wait on ebay for one to come up.

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Re: FWD Watch your RD/Foot possible interaction
Reply #8 - Apr 8^th, 2010, 8:07pm

Well forget the IGH for now too much $ and I'm not sure if I want one for the cruz or the hurricane and the same one won't work for both due to the tire sized. Sturmey archer is good for 20" wheels the rest are for bigger wheels.
Went to bluebonnet and got a disc only mavic 717 wheel for cheap. It was the old hub style that allowed you to replace the spokes without removing the cassette or disc cool stuff but they don't make them new anymore so I wonder what problems it has. They even threw in a spoke protector for free Smiley

Found some new bb7 185mm for $45 at jenson so that should be a nice upgrade to the very cheap vbrakes that came with the bike.

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Re: FWD Watch your RD/Foot possible interaction
Reply #9 - Apr 10^th, 2010, 10:51pm

Quote from evblazer on Apr 5^th, 2010, 9:06pm:

I would highly suggest a spoke guard inside the cassette (dork disc?) for FWD where you could hit the RD with your foot if at all possible. Funny story as I rode my bike to get just that item Smiley

I had the limit screws set but I somehow knocked it at some point on my ride. Later going down a hill at about 25 I shifted the wrong way and the chain took a dive into my cassette. I was able to instantly get both my feet unclipped but having the front wheel lockup and lose all the spokes on the right side is an interesting experience.
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_GIFgiCQnK-8/S7qSc116Q6I/AAAAAAAABLw/glMSn2Yg0Xk/s400/Broke nSpokesCruzbike1.jpg
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_GIFgiCQnK-8/S7qSdbmCVzI/AAAAAAAABL0/t2ijP4yHcQI/s400/Broke nSpokesCruzbike2.jpg
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_GIFgiCQnK-8/S7qSd0jx6CI/AAAAAAAABL4/E1oHxKRCAOA/s400/Broke nSpokesCruzbike3.jpg
One spoke actually held off on the cassette side but the other 15 were torn very quickly. The baron came up a few minutes later so at least Mark got to see the new cruzbike frame.

Not really sure what the plan is. I think the hub might be toast or at least the freewheel and/or cassette along with the rear derailleur. Might be time for the internal hub I was thinking about.

Edit: actually.. I guess it is time to just hang it up for a while.. maybe revisit it later or sell outthe cruzbike parts as a kit or something.

About a mile down the road I was kicking myself for not taking pictures

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