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FlyingLaZBoy
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A practical purchase
Jan 24th, 2010, 3:12pm
 
I ride DART enough that I've been thinking about (and doing some digging into) folding bikes -- lower-end ones, admittedly, but folding nonetheless.  Whenever I do take DART, the furthest I have to go to or from the station is about 2 miles.  Additionally, part of my DART riding is on the smaller "flex" buses, and I also want to be able to put the bike in the back of Terrie's Prius -- so for all the above, a folder seemed like a practical option.  Mark Colletti purchased one back in the summer, but I forget the brand name.
 
After a bit of test riding, it came down between a used Breezer IC3 with 16" wheels, and a KHS "Mocha" with 20" wheels, both under $400.  I wound up purchasing the KHS, because of somewhat more substantial fold interlocks, adjustable height handlebar, 7 speeds vs. 3, and the 20" wheels.  It folds and unfolds in about 30 seconds, which is reasonable.   It's certainly DIFFERENT riding a "DF" style bike again, especially with 20" wheels -- but I won't be using it for long distance or club rides.  Here is a series of pics:
 

 

 

 


 

 
 

 

 

 
 
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Re: A practical purchase
Reply #1 - Jan 24th, 2010, 5:06pm
 
Cool! I've been percolating on a folding bike over a year now, and lust after a Bike Friday, but I'm more of Dahon priced kinda guy.  Give us some ride reports after you use it a bit.  
 
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Reply #2 - Jan 24th, 2010, 9:58pm
 
Rode it up to the Rowlett DART bus station and back, about 6 miles total -- it's no speed demon, and I could stand more than the 7 gears it's got to be able to go faster, but all in all I think it's going to do the job nicely.  I put my old Performance Viewpoint 10W halogen headlight on it, which will work just fine for the occasional evening sidewalk commute.
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Reply #3 - Jan 25th, 2010, 10:53pm
 
That is a great bike for its intended purpose! Any riding is better than none...
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Reply #4 - Jan 25th, 2010, 11:11pm
 
My Brother-in-law carried one in airplane for ground transportation.
I wonder if one would fit in a Hugo.
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Reply #5 - Jan 26th, 2010, 8:59am
 
Oh, and just another note on the design -- the two hinges also have locking pin backup, in case the quickrelease happens to come loose...  good thinking!!!
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Reply #6 - Feb 16th, 2010, 12:51am
 
Very nice!  I'm also in the folder-curious group.  Where did you find them to test ride, Paul?
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Reply #7 - Feb 16th, 2010, 7:07pm
 
Quote from bent_eagle on Feb 16th, 2010, 12:51am:
Very nice!  I'm also in the folder-curious group.  Where did you find them to test ride, Paul?

 
 
RBM Richardson location -- they've actually got a good stock on the floor, ranging in price from $300 to > $1000...  Talk to Sam Montag, he's the one who helped me.  Of course, you have to go into the CLOTHING section to find them...   Roll Eyes
 
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Reply #8 - Feb 16th, 2010, 9:41pm
 
I saw a couple nice ones at REI this past weekend as well.
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Reply #9 - Feb 16th, 2010, 11:40pm
 
Cool!  Thanks!
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Reply #10 - Feb 17th, 2010, 2:47pm
 
I wonder what it would take to put a hub-motor on it.  Smiley
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Reply #11 - Feb 20th, 2010, 1:59am
 
Buying a hub motor and support electronics, and swapping a wheel out and mounting the electrical "stuff" required. Folders usually work out best with the motor and battery on the same side of the fold. A folder and a hub motor are actually a pretty good commuting option for office workers if you are allowed to keep it in your cube or office and recharge. Smiley
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Re: A practical purchase
Reply #12 - Feb 20th, 2010, 9:06am
 
I just put an e-bike kit on my wife's bike and I don't think I'd want to add that kind of weight to something I had to haul around on a bus/train and in the office.  I don't know how much the bike weighs, but the e-bike kit is pushing 30 lbs between the motor, battery, controller, throttle, brakes, wiring and hardware to mount it all.  Seems like a lot to lug around.
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Reply #13 - Feb 20th, 2010, 1:41pm
 
What kind of battery was in that kit, SLA (sealed lead acid)? Those are basically just bricks of lead with a little acid in fiberglass mats to make them work. The way to go on e-assist is either NiMH or LiFePO4 chemistry with the LiFePO4 having the best energy density (Wh/lb) Also since if you're toting the bike on the bus you don't have to actually ride it very much you can get a lighter battery with less range, but if you plan on riding all the way to work you need a bigger battery and just use the folding feature to reduce your parking footprint in the office/cube. You can get 10 miles of assist out of a bundle of AA size NiMH cells in series, but the pack needs to have monitoring electronics to prevent overcharging and a smart charger that can use the the electronics to tell the status of the pack and not burn it up. A 24V pack needs 20NiMH cells in series (@$4/cell, 1.2V/cell)
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Reply #14 - Feb 20th, 2010, 1:43pm
 
This is my favorite EBike Kit.  
 
A Mid Drive unit (double freewheel kit)  
 
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