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Winter shoes?
Aug 10th, 2009, 11:04am
 
I know it is a little early for this discussion, but I am wanting to buy a pair of winter cycling shoes.  I am wanting road shoes which accept SPD-SL clips (3 hole).  I do not want to use shoe covers.  Already done that and does not work for me.  Also, wool socks with the covers and does not work either.  Do not like sandals because too flimsy and hurt my feet.  So I am looking for actual winter road cycling shoes.  Do any of you guys use winter cycling shoes here in North Texas?  If so, which brand do you recommend.  I am leaning toward the Lake brand.
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Reply #1 - Aug 10th, 2009, 11:16am
 
Not what you're asking, but for cold weather commuting I switch back to flat pedals and use regular shoes.  When I ride with spds I just use loose fitting shoes and 2 layers of wool socks.  No clipless solution is as warm as the regular shoe option for me.
 
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Reply #2 - Aug 10th, 2009, 11:29am
 
Quote from Kwijybow on Aug 10th, 2009, 11:16am:
Not what you're asking, but for cold weather commuting I switch back to flat pedals and use regular shoes.  When I ride with spds I just use loose fitting shoes and 2 layers of wool socks.  No clipless solution is as warm as the regular shoe option for me.

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Would not want to go without my clipless pedals on my Giro.  I just would not feel safe without them.  Not very comfortable with the higher bottom bracket because with the angle the feet want to fall of the pedals.  Also, would lose a lot of power by not having the upward leg stroke.
 
I thought about buying another pair of regular cycling shoes that are looser so I could use more socks.  However, I was not sure if this would solve my cold feet problem.  Looks like this might be an option.
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Reply #3 - Aug 10th, 2009, 11:30am
 
Last winter I went to my keen sandals and a pair of wool socks for my winter shoes for a while. When I started using the hurricane I went back to my road shoes and changed the insert to one of those aerogel orange inserts from X-Mart that worked really well at keeping the heat in my shoes and that was just using a single pair of wool socks. Two pairs worked worse since they would be too tight and shoe covers never worked for me on a recumbent because most cover the part that is out of the wind so sort of keep the cold air in that is coming from the sole of the shoe?
 
I have heard the lakes are pretty good from back when I was commuting through snow. Back then I was just using MTB shoes one size too big with two pairs of wool socks with a plastic newspaper bag in between layers if it was cold or wet sooo no first hand experience. If you are just using the winter shoes for a straight ride you should be ok. On my commute I'd need two pair of shoes though because in the AM it would be cold and the pm it's would be too hot and the ride too long I'd melt in them.
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Reply #4 - Aug 10th, 2009, 11:31am
 
For Winter I have a pair of MTB shoes with SPD pedals. I got them big enough to use "Smart Wool" Treking socks and my feet stay warm all winter.
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Reply #5 - Aug 10th, 2009, 11:49am
 
I wear my regular cycling shoes, and an extra large pair of wool (hunting) socks.  I just cut the bottom area to expose the cleat and heal cup.  I might go through a couple pair a season, but it's pretty inexpsive.
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Reply #6 - Aug 10th, 2009, 12:00pm
 
I use mountain bike shoes with wool socks and "Toasti Toes" adhesive-backed, chemical foot warmers. My toes stay warm for hours.
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Reply #7 - Aug 10th, 2009, 1:14pm
 
I always just used my regular tri shoes that are breathable, but also not very worth against the cold, with one nice wool sock.  After borrowing Paul's toe covers one VERY chilly ride, I have bought a set of shoe covers and that should be plenty good for Texas.  I ain't going out if it's below 40 anyway.  I have a trainer if I want to punish myself that badly.
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Reply #8 - Aug 10th, 2009, 3:05pm
 
I have Raynaud's syndrome, so I really struggle to keep my fingers and toes warm in the winter. With all the things I have tried, what has worked best for my toes is to just wear the same Sidi Dominators I wear all year, but loosen the velcro straps closest to my toes for extra room, and place a chemical hand warmer heat pack on top of my toes.
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Reply #9 - Aug 10th, 2009, 4:49pm
 
I have shoe covers, but rarely use them... as has been mentioned, the cold air is hitting the sole of the shoe, not the upper more breathable fabric area.  But I do use a pair of Kucharik toe covers... I've found the "toasty toes" adhesive pads work very nicely.
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Reply #10 - Aug 10th, 2009, 7:37pm
 
I have tried the shoe covers, but on the Bacchetta the wind just blows into the cutout for the clip and freezes my feet.  Here are the best shoe covers I have used, but when I switched to the ultegra pedals, the rubber sole rubs the crank arm.  I would have to install pedal extenders to use them on the Bacchetta.
 
http://www.performancebike.com/bikes/Product_10052_10551_1018749_-1___
 
I considered the wind blowing in the bottom of my shoe through the shoe cover cutout, so I took a foil sunshade for a car windshield, and cut out a shoe insert hoping the foil would reflect the heat back to my feet and block air coming in the bottom of the shoe.  It helps, but still does not keep my feet warm.
 
Tried the chemical handwarmer, this was nice but in cold temperatures, would not last but about 30 to 40 minutes.  Not much good on a two hour ride.  However, I never tried them on top of my toes.
 
Last year I would just wear a pair of wool hunting socks in my normal riding shoes.  No room for another pair.  This works pretty good but feet still get cold when it is in the 40s and below.  I also slipped a sock over the shoe with a cutout for the clip, but almost fell when I put my foot down.  My heal could not grap the asphault.  I did not think about cutting out for the heal.
 
I have a very nice trainer, but I hate using it.  It is SSOOOOO boring, that I prefer any weather except rain to working out on it.  I even bought a niteflux photon max extreme headlight so I could ride in the dark instead of using the trainer.
 
So with all that in mind, I started considering an insulated shoe.  That is why I was considering the Lake shoes.  The problem is they are twice as expensive as my normal shoes and I was afraid they might be too warm for North Texas.  I don't want to waste $250.  Rather spend it on cool components.  LOL
 
It looks like you guys didn't waste your money on winter shoes and the alternate methods are working for you.  As you can see I have tried most of them, except the toe covers.  I have not tried that.  I assumed if the shoe cover did not work the toe cover would definitely not work.  I also may try the sock over the shoe again and cutout for the heel stop.
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Reply #11 - Aug 10th, 2009, 8:11pm
 
Wow, you may need to find a different source for your chemical packs. The cheap wally world and Academy chemical packs last 3 or 4 hours for me. If you stop and shake them again, that will usually get a while longer, yet.  
 
The problem with insulated shoes is that most Texas winter days warm up in the afternoon. Add the afternoon sun to that, and what felt good in the morning is sweaty feet big time in the afternoon. One chemical pack in the morning usually does it for me, but on a really long winter ride where the day is going to stay cold and cloudy, I'll pack more, and change to new ones at a stop. The main thing to remember is that you need to shake the chemical packs when you open them, and it may take the chemical packs 30 minutes to reach full temperature after opening, so if you're opening the package just before a ride and then doing a short ride, you may be wasting your time using them.
 
Some people even put the chemical packs on their ankles or wrists. If you warm the blood going to your extremities, that still works to keep extremities warm. But everyone is a bit different, so you may have to do your own experimentation to see what works best for you.
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Reply #12 - Aug 10th, 2009, 8:12pm
 
Quote from dgholmes59 on Aug 10th, 2009, 7:37pm:

Tried the chemical handwarmer, this was nice but in cold temperatures, would not last but about 30 to 40 minutes.  Not much good on a two hour ride.  However, I never tried them on top of my toes.

 
I have used over 40 "Toasti Toes" adhesive pads on the bottom of my feet. I have ridden in 30 degree weather and found them to last up to 6 hours, as advertised. They need to be placed between the bottom of the wearer's foot and the sole of the shoe to limit oxygen supply to the pad per the instructions. My toes are naturally cold, even during the Summer when I am in an airconditioned room. When I arrive home after a long Winter ride, my toes are still warm with the Toasti Toes stuck to the bottom of my socks.
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Reply #13 - Aug 10th, 2009, 8:17pm
 
Quote from jayg on Aug 10th, 2009, 8:12pm:

I have used over 40 "Toasti Toes" adhesive pads on the bottom of my feet. I have ridden in 30 degree weather and found them to last up to 6 hours, as advertised. They need to be placed between the bottom of the wearer's foot and the sole of the shoe to limit oxygen supply to the pad per the instructions. My toes are naturally cold, even during the Summer when I am in an airconditioned room. When I arrive home after a long Winter ride, my toes are still warm with the Toasti Toes stuck to the bottom of my socks.

 
Yes, the Toasti Toes do seem to outlast the cheap chemical packs, but even as flat as they are, they hurt my toes when I put them on the bottom. Once I switched back to the top of my toes, I changed back to the cheaper chemical packs, since either one seemed to work great on top.
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Reply #14 - Aug 10th, 2009, 8:39pm
 
Looks like I need to try the chemical warmers again.  I am pretty sure I bought them at Walmart.  Not sure what the problem was,  but I am sure they did not last over 40 minutes.  I cannot remember if I shook them or not.  I bought some toastie toes last year after winter was over and never used them.  I will give them a try this year.
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