I set up a different thread for the shorter cranks discussion part of the OK is OK thread..
PB
 
Quote from Killer Bee on May 30^th, 2009, 7:23pm:

 
Great job Peggy! I expect I won't be catching you at goatneck this year eh? Looks like you should do really well at the TTT I'll be down there watching, er volunteering, this year so I'll see all you speedies down there.  
 
 
Shellene,
   I found it hard to find 165s online anywhere when I was searching but I went over to my LBS and they could get any shimano one I wanted without any sort of problem and they had it for me two days after I ordered. If you want shorter then 165 I think that is where it gets harder to find double and triples in that size.
I have forza's on one of the bikes at home and they come in 145, 155, 165 but use that old fangled square taper BB. They are cheap but tough, and perhaps heavy, but worked well enough to try it out without spending a lot.
http://www.calhouncycle.com/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=&idproduct =1725
old fangled square taper bb  
http://www.calhouncycle.com/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=70&idprodu ct=1073
 

apparently both power on cycling and calhoun cycling sell short cranks down to 145mm for around 40 bucks.  They won't be the best cranks, but they'd be good to try out.

Well, Bryan was thinking that I should try the 65's without trying the crank shorteners since my upright bike had 65's (if it works on the upright it may work on the 'bent and has to be better than the 170's), and that avoids any extra distance outwards that might be created by the crank shorteners.  
 
Greg, would you and the 65 cranks be available Monday or Tuesday night?  Email or PM me or Bryan.