Hi Folks reckon you've seen Dan's email as well,  Ray? Peggy? someone else? up for the 4 man mixed team?
 
September 25-27
 
Take Care,
Nelson.

If someone can tell me how to get faster between now and then I might be up to being an alternate if you have absolutely no other options I might just head down anyhow since it is so close to me to spectate or something.
 
Yeah ride more and lose weight. I've done both and I just get slower   Edit: (started another thread on this)
 

Quote from evblazer on Jul 15^th, 2008, 3:45pm:

 
Hmm, start a new thread on this topic.   It's much more than a little subject.   I suspect your problem is fueling and maybe over-training.    If not that, you're just riding and not 'training'.

Paul - e-mail forwarded...

For those who haven't competed in the past, thus received the e-mail announcement, here it is
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THE 2008 TEXAS TIME TRIALS
 
The Texas Time Trials Lives On: With your help we will once again resurrect The Texas Time Trials, to life. With a new date this year, The Tejas 500 will start on Thursday September 25th (48 hour start). We will need all the supporters, riders, sponsors and volunteers we can find to make this event a success, again. Please join in by spreading the word and helping with the list below. If you know a website or chat room that you can forward this to or post it to, that would be greatly appreciated.  
 
Racers:  The website should be updated before mid Aug., with more updates to follow. If you are planning on doing a team, get your pick of the litter before they are gone to another team. Many think that the 4 person 500-mile "Tejas 500" is the most fun and I can see why, you get to spend three fourths of your time resting.  With a 4-person team, each person rides 125 miles with-in two days and your done! Every member of a team completing 500 miles earns a * GORGEOUS trophies (http://www.tt24tt.com/awards.php).    
 
Volunteers:  You make the difference volunteers!  Bring out your squirt guns, fireworks, wigs & noise-makers.  With racers starting Thursday night and all races ending Saturday evening, volunteers are critical to keeping a festive and safe race.   Camping is available on-site, so bring your tent.  Except for smiling and yelling, no experience necessary, won't you join us?  Check out our cheerleaders and volunteer info!  http://www.tt24tt.com/volunteers.php  Every volunteer will receive a T-shirt with their name printed on the back, and their name will be placed on the website, but more importantly by volunteering you will become a part of something much bigger than any thing we could do on our own.  
 
Sponsors:   We need sponsors, preferably cash sponsors, but product is great. If you know a company that would be willing to sponsor The Texas Time Trials, we will add their logo to the event T-shirts and more. Check out the sponsor page on the TTT website.  
 
The Atmosphere:   What I love about this event is that amongst all the world class athletes, are regular riders like you and me,  Last years event brought riders from more than  a dozen different states and even another country. Let's show the world that long distance riding is alive and well in Hospitable North Texas. The Texas Time Trials has become a reunion, we get to see and talk to people that we love, but may only get to see once a year at The Time Trials. It has become  our annual pilgrimage to a place were all pitch in to keep a worthwhile tradition alive. It has become our own cycling Woodstock.  
 
Lone Star Randonneurs:  Although this is not a Randonneuring event per say, it is the way that we the members of LoneStar Randonneurs can give a little back to rest of the world. It is due in part to Lone Star Randonneur members like Rani F., Bill F. Pam W. Don E., Rick H., Jorge R. Mark-Linda-Lauren M., Brad-Julie F., Steve-Kelly B., Carl F. Frank B., Pat N., Brenda B., DeeAnn J., Phil S., Kyl S., Shanna B. and a bunch more, that really  make it happen.  I'm counting on every member of LSR to help in some way, if possible. Any one got some fresh ideas ? Please let us know where you will fit in to this part of our "History Book".  
 
 www.tt24tt.com  
 
Thanks, DanD  

Quote from Bud_Bent on Jul 15^th, 2008, 8:53pm:

 
Say it ain't so?!

Not exactly - who knows if the team will even form?  But if not, Mark can sub in for Bud and we can keep it going.
 
I still think the name should be the Fing recumbents this year!

Peggy - you silly woman.  You are certainly in the same league as we are.  I'm sure I speak for Nelson when I say we've been looking forward to the opportunity to team with you since last year's TTTT.
 
At the moment, we still have one spot open as our team would be Peggy, Nelson and Ray.  While it would be awesome if your husband (I forgot his name)    could be on our team, I don't have any salary cap money, so he'll have to decide....
 
Steve - Please consider joining a team with Peggy, Nelson and myself for a 4 person, mixed TTTT Tejas 500 team.

Quote from Mrs Strada on Jul 15^th, 2008, 10:51pm:

 
 
Not "heel," but perhaps "Achille's Bra Strap"...?  
 
 
(for the obscure reference, see this thread:  http://rbent.webhostingwholesale.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1206215518/0 )

Hey I wonder if i can do this???? Could theer be enough for another team??

Quote from power_bent on Jul 16^th, 2008, 1:49pm:

 
There are lots of different distances and team options. You don't have to ride with a team at all. Go to the TTTT site and check out all the different posibilities.

Quote from bikerteam on Jul 16^th, 2008, 6:20am:

 
Ummm...an all Bacchetta mixed 4 person team(with Peggy as my teammate)and a  course record of 31 hours(set last year) for the the 500 miles-mixed team?

Oh, just a reminder that " 'bents can't climb hills..."   two photos taken during last Saturday's Plano Eastside ride:
 
1)  At the bottom of dump hill -- I think that's Lynn, just over to the right, and Peggy's slightly behind me...
 

 
 
2)  At the top of dump hill -- notice Peggy essentially right up there with me, and all of the riders in the previous photo are still climbing...  
 

I suggest we declare a date, such as August 1st, as the deadline to individually commit to either ride solo or to a team.  After August 1st, if not committed, those people would become free agents and should not feel guilty if joining a different team from the past.  That gives everyone two weeks to decide, before becoming free agents.
 
Does everyone agree to this?

I wanna be on the non-human team! Unless it is the super-human team then well I guess back to humans for me.
 
I wonder if there are volunteer opportunities where i don't have to be cheery because that ain't happening    
 

Quote from Brad Bedell on Jul 17^th, 2008, 10:36am:

 
 
Like they told John Schlitter in the mountains of West Virginia in the middle of the night, when he was going down hills -- "Just keep the pedals moving, so we know you're awake!!!"  
 
One interesting thing about last year's TTTT ride, was the full moon we had -- it was ALMOST light enough to ride without a headlight...  (almost)

Quote from FlyingLaZBoy on Jul 17^th, 2008, 1:44pm:

 
Indeed it was, I snuck up on a couple of riders by turning my light off and talking to them.        My favorite part was seeing riders, out on course, on the side of the road taking a 'nap'.
 

Paul that was one of my favorite movies, along with the Don Johnson sci-fl flick:
 

I'm no Politician. Yes ,I think it's a good idea. I agree.

Quote from bikerteam on Jul 17^th, 2008, 3:55pm:

 
I'm looking for a Team, either DF or 'bent.    IS there a category for DF& 'bent mixed?   I have a couple of soft committal DF people, but nothing firmed up yet.  
 
-B

Brad,
 
Last Year Ray and I rode on a mixed DF/bent team, we counted in the DF category.  We also mixed DF and Bent on our on individual efforts, but the other 2 guys were all DF.  
 
Ray I don't think its possible to exert any kinda control or agreement over the proceedings, things will work out on their own accord.  All I know is we got first dibs for teaming up with Peggy!  I agree with the idea in principle that it should be 2 women and 2 men, but that can be a tall order even if we were a DF team.  
 
I agree with Paul, the experience is the reward, and having a team to share with makes it more memorable for me.  If we get to steal Steve from the flyers that would be cool.  I expect to continue my hopefully shallow and long decline in performance!  My goal is to be as near to 1hr lap averages as possible.  I think I was just under 1:05 last year over 7 laps.
 
Take Care,
Nelson.
 

Quote from FlyingLaZBoy on Jul 17^th, 2008, 4:53pm:

 
If that is what it is how I can not want to be in  
 
Is each lap 17.85 miles? Trying to piece together posts (one says 125 miles each rider Nelson just said 7 laps)
Hm I may need a faster rider for my bike  

Quote from evblazer on Jul 17^th, 2008, 5:25pm:

 
 
Each lap is essentially 20 miles -- it's 8 miles to the right turn at the "top" of the course, about 3.5 miles across the top, and the remainder back to the start.  A team can do the laps however you feel like splitting them up -- it looks like Brad took at least one two-lap turn (1:59 is excellent time for a double, by the way!    ).  We had three riders do 6 laps (120 miles), and one do 7 laps (140 miles), alternating through the four of us, but we flipped the order during the night to give people a chance to get a little sleep, which seemed to work pretty well.  Brenda Barnell's 3-person mixed team split things differently, 120/180/200, I think (with Brenda doing the 200).
 
What actually helps team riders is that there are also solo contestants out there that are doing either 200 or 500 miles -- and you're a LOT fresher than they are when you're riding your lap(s), so chances are you will catch and pass someone you see ahead of you.  Rabbits and carrots, so to speak!
 
Here's a version of Brad's elevation map, with certain landmarks noted:
 

 
 
I believe it was around Mile 9 or so where the infamous "Get that kickstand offa that bike" incident occurred...     and "The Glade" is the name of a retirement community off to the left of the road that is essentially where most of the climbing is complete, and some nice downhills are ahead, so "If you're at the Glade, you've got it made!"

 
No matter how this all works out, who ends up on what team. That everyone interested in riding  finds  a way to ride.  I did the 100 mile solo last year that is a great option, you can still help a team through there race then ride your solo race making this the best of both worlds. We have to remember that we all are friends and one of our goals is to improve the image of recumbents.
                                                             Peggy

No Terry, right now the only lowracers signed up are me and Mark.  Tim Woudenburg is currently considering it, and I'm trying to get one of the Chicago or Ohio nocoms to come ride with us.  
 
Basically I want that darned record.  I want to shatter that frigging team that beat us last year and just set a pace no one can ever hope to meet.  I'm in better shape than last year, actually, and I've figured out how to work my on-bike nutrition to avoid the sour stomach I had on my last 4 laps, which alone cost our team 10 minutes I'm sure.  
 
So I'm hoping I can get an all-low team, but if not, I'd love to see me on the tica, Paul riding the x-tream and Steve riding the f5 700, or perhaps even my carbent - I'm sure with a 17 pound bike Steve could fly around that frigging track.

The team that beat you set a course record for diamond frame bikes  
 
http://www.tt24tt.com/results/TTTT_Course_Records.pdf
 
They pedaled five hundred miles in. 24:24  
To beat this time every lap needs to be  greater than a 20mph average (giving <1 hour laptimes).
 
Quote from aikigreg on Jul 17^th, 2008, 9:44pm:

Ouch, entry fees have gone up.....  
 
From the application form:
 
EVENT:  Please choose only one and please see www.tt24tt.com for complete schedule and start times
 
THE TEJAS 500 (early entry fee $185.00) Per Person (48 hr time limit)                        
   Select Start Time:    48 hr    42 hr    36 hr
 
THE TEXAS 24-HOUR TIME TRIAL  (early entry fee $155.00) Per Person                        
 
THE NORTH AMERICAN 12-HOUR CHAMPIONSHIP (early entry fee $125.00) Per Person                        
    Select Start Time:    16 hr    13 hr    
 
THE TEXAS 6-HOUR CHALLENGE (early entry fee $95.00) Per Person                        
 

Did pedalling the 500 miles as a team (Reclining Flyers) get you fellows qualified for RAAM?
 
Terry

Rose and I have signed up as volunteers at TTTT. I would encourage those rbenters who aren't riding in TTTT to consider helping to put on the event as volunteers. As a rider last year, I certainly appreciated the work done by and encouragement gotten from all the volunteers. This is the only RAAM qualifying ultra cycling event in this part of the country, and it takes a lot of work to put it on. To learn more about volunteering, check out the volunteer page of the TTTT website. You can email Dan Driscoll to sign up as a volunteer.

500 Solo to RAAM qualify to keep the XS until your ride in next years RAAM?

Quote from FlyingLaZBoy on Aug 19^th, 2008, 10:38am:

 
 
500 relay pretty please!!!!!!  without you I don't have a 4-man team!

I'm one of those F'ing 'bents...