You mean the 3 Stooges?!! Control #3 was handing out Bacchetta jersey's only if you agreed to drink a tall boy.

Quote from FlyingLaZBoy on Apr 15^th, 2008, 4:06pm:

 
Paul ,I was talking with Ray/Nelson during the permanent ,the TTTT's for '08 does NOT look good. Ray/Nelson could give you more details.  I would not expect to see this event happen unless some changes quickly. Very sad news indeed.
 
 
The Killer "B's" are spreading like a virus.

I hadn't thought about that, Ray - interesting observation!  I shared the beer photo with the Bacchetta forum - I hope you don't mind, Nelson, but it was too great to pass up with the 3 B jerseys flying!

Hi Guys,
 
  sorry for a public post but this seems the best way to get in touch with the affected riders quickest.
It seems that due to a misunderstanding on my part with Bill Fox, the owner of the GP2CLE route that Greg's, Steve's, Peggy's and Mark's ride results a not being validated.  I was operating under the method with which I'm familiar (that a waiver signed the morning off was sufficient) but it seems that Bill requires a hard copy of the waiver from all participants prior to allowing you to ride on one of his routes.  Here in lies the problem.  Bill refused to validate the ride, but he did copy the permanents coordinator Edward Robinson on the email notification to me of this fact, and myself and Ray have been in discussion with him about the situation.  It seems however that without a formal appeal by you the riders affected that Edward cannot make a decision.  So I was trying to sheild you guys from this, but I now need you if you so desire to write an email to Edward regarding your desire for an appeal.
 
Here is a copy of the last email from Edward which contains his contact information:
 
 
Gentlemen -
 
  First, thank you for your courtesy as we have been discussing the results of this ride.  I know each of you have serious concerns regarding the results validation.
 
  At this point, however, any decision concerning the results would be premature because I have not received a notice of appeal from any rider whose validation was declined by Bill.  It is not clear to me whether those riders even have been informed that their results were rejected.
 
  Between Bill and Nelson I have the following contact information (only) regarding the remaining riders:
 
Peggy Petty - RUSA #4613
Steve Petty - RUSA #4612 nfwgonzo@yahoo.com
Mark Hastings - No RUSA number
Greg Gross - RUSA #4557, aikigreg@hotmail.com
 
  That alone is of concern to me, as there should be an entry form for each rider with the appropriate contact information.
 
  Bill, Nelson -- I located additional contact information for Peggy and Steve Petty, and for Greg Gross, in RUSA's membership records, but of course none is yet available for Mark Hastings (a new applicant).  I am going to ask that one or the other of you please contact these four riders to let them know the outcome of the ride, and that they have the option of appealing the result.  Please decide between the two of you who will take care of this.  If the affected riders would like to appeal, they should do so in writing -- an e-mail to me is fine.  Having contacted them, please confirm to me that they were notified, and when.
 
Greg Gross:        817-492-9438
Steve Petty:        972-335-5730
Peggy Petty:      972-335-5730, mrsstrada@yahoo.com
 
  Unless I receive a notice of appeal from one of the riders whose results were declined, I will have to consider this closed.
 
  In the meantime, I will get back to you, Ray, regarding your question about waivers, and to you, Nelson, regarding your routes.
 
  Regards,
 
- Edward
 
Edward Robinson
Permanents Coordinator
Randonneurs USA
956.276.9171
rusapermanents@gmail.com
 
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My apologies on all this,  I seriously doubt I'll be hosting anymore rides, as this is sucking the joy out of riding my bike in a big way.
 
Take Care,
Nelson.

What should I tell Bill, other than that "i appeal!"?  I mean, we have receipt to prove we rode the sucker, as well as photo documentation outside of some of the controls.

Actually I really don't recommend talking with Bill at all, I'd just email Edward and let him know you would in fact like to appeal for your result to be validated.  By the way I did let Bill know that the roads were seriously deteriorated from the gas well traffic.
 
Take Care,
Nelson.

Hi Steve,
 
  Ray brought up the issue of waiver uniformity with Edward, and so hopefully this will help codify that so that this kind of thing will not happen to someone else.  I can attest for a fact that it will not happen to me again, as this is about the last straw with me and RUSA legalism, I ride my bike for fun and recreation when not riding for transportation purposes.  I just wish it had only affected me, and not you folks.  For that I sincerely apologize.
 
Take Care,
Nelson.