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Message started by FlyingLaZBoy on Aug 11^th, 2018, 7:28pm

Title: Tubeless update
Post by FlyingLaZBoy on Aug 11^th, 2018, 7:28pm

Back in the January-Feb timeframe, I had determined that my A23 rim wheels didn't have a good, clean seal, and the rim tape was partially up into the bead area, which was behind the random pressure loss. I had Rhett at John's go over them, replace the rim tape and do the installation, and I've been running successfully on them ever since, with no sudden bleedout.

Not sure how many miles I have on the tires, since I swap out wheelsets fairly often depending upon the ride, but I think they really contribute to my ability to keep up with the >25mph GDB riders I hang with on Tuesday nights... I'll try to go through my Strava records to figure out miles.

Paul

Title: Re: Tubeless update
Post by FlyingLaZBoy on Aug 12^th, 2018, 8:57am

So, going through my Strava data and attempting to sort out when I used the tubeless set, it looks like I've put about 900 miles on this pair of Pro Ones. Starting to develop a flat spot, but still have miles left on 'em!http://i977.photobucket.com/albums/ae256/pbrown8js/Tire.jpg

Title: Re: Tubeless update
Post by FlyingLaZBoy on Aug 22^nd, 2018, 10:00pm

I spoke/typed too soon -- I did the Thursday Mesquite ride for 34 miles, and when I went to Saturday's Airport Ride, I noticed a 4" patch of cord showing through on one of the Pro Ones... I figured I could get one more ride out of 'em, so I did the 40 without incident, then headed to John's to get some new shoes for the Sprint. So, about 1000-1100 miles on 'em. Considering the amount of fast speed scrubbing they receive, I'm not too surprised.

Title: Re: Tubeless update
Post by jayg on Aug 23^rd, 2018, 5:30pm

FlyingLaZBoy wrote:

Was your trike's toe-in set with you seated on the trike? I ran 0 toe-in on my ICE VTX trike equipped with tube-type Schwalbe Ones.

Title: Re: Tubeless update
Post by Action Lad on Aug 23^rd, 2018, 8:41pm

jayg wrote:

[quote author=FlyingLaZBoy link=1534033702/0#2 date=1534993219]I spoke/typed too soon -- I did the Thursday Mesquite ride for 34 miles, and when I went to Saturday's Airport Ride, I noticed a 4" patch of cord showing through on one of the Pro Ones... I figured I could get one more ride out of 'em, so I did the 40 without incident, then headed to John's to get some new shoes for the Sprint. So, about 1000-1100 miles on 'em. Considering the amount of fast speed scrubbing they receive, I'm not too surprised.

Was your trike's toe-in set with you seated on the trike? I ran 0 toe-in on my ICE VTX trike equipped with tube-type Schwalbe Ones.
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What is it set to now? Just curious. Mine is always set to 0.

Title: Re: Tubeless update
Post by FlyingLaZBoy on Aug 23^rd, 2018, 8:57pm

Yes, I set it to 0 as close as I could...

Title: Re: Tubeless update
Post by Tiger_Mike on Aug 28^th, 2018, 6:31am

I'm curious about a couple of things with the tubeless setup...do you notice any difference in leak down with the tubeless? In other words, do you have to pump them up as often to maintain the pressure range you like to ride with? And the bigger question: would you trust it on a commuter setup? I'm intrigued, but I really don't want to deal with a messy flat in the dark at 6:00 am when I'm on the way to work!

Title: Re: Tubeless update
Post by rmillay on Aug 28^th, 2018, 7:17pm

Visiting the SchwalbeUS site, looking for tubes (they wanted too much for shipping), I noticed an interesting development in the tubeless scene. The new style carcases that replaced the One Pro are available in a Marathon Supreme (32-622) and a Marathon Race (26", I think). That Supreme could be a durable alternative for fast touring.

Title: Re: Tubeless update
Post by rmillay on Oct 9^th, 2018, 11:56am

I've been testing Jay's old set of Scorchers on my 700. I like the feel and they roll as nice as the Kojaks. But I've had three tube failures with them in three weeks. Worse, the tires require a herculean effort to remove and remount. Not a good fit with long rides. I'd like to blame the tires, but it's probably as much the tubes. I can only find 28-35 width with presta stems, and I think the 40-width of the Scorchers over-stresses them. Anyway, they are off, now, and the winter Marathons (also buggers to mount) are on. More tubes and a tire jack are on order.

The failure this morning was the Kojak on the back. (Sigh!) [smiley=headbang.gif]

Title: Re: Tubeless update
Post by FlyingLaZBoy on Nov 14^th, 2018, 3:25pm

I'm quite happy with how the Pro One tubeless roll, that's for sure... Not too happy about only getting ~1,000 miles out of them, though. No flats so far, but installation can be touchy to guarantee a good seal. I top them up roughly once a week if I'm not riding them.

I'm using my Duranos for "everyday" riding, and only changing wheelsets when the need for speed is there.

Paul

Title: Re: Tubeless update
Post by FlyingLaZBoy on Apr 9^th, 2019, 11:29am

The tubeless Pro Ones continue to perform well, and my mileage has improved with a slight toe-in adjustment. I've now added a tubeless rear 559...

Paul