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Message started by jayg on May 15^th, 2017, 3:28pm

Title: Weight Weenie Hydration System
Post by jayg on May 15^th, 2017, 3:28pm

I don't carry a water bottle, and certainly not a water bladder, when I ride at WRL. However, I have been known to carry a bottle on the Plano East Side Ride, during hot weather, mainly for hydration during the last 10 miles of the ride (The hottest part). Ordered the hydration system shown in the below photo: https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Desert-SmarTube-Hydration-System/dp/B000GM6LWS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1494877308&sr=8-1&keywords=smartube. The kit contains adapters for both small-mouth plastic water bottles and standard bike water bottles. My intent is to purchase a chilled bottle of water at the last East Side Ride rest stop and put it in the small bag on the back of my bike's seat. That way I don't have to carry extra weight around, until near the end of the ride. :)

http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af339/jayg_2010/DSC01131_zpsacndbmxt.jpg (http://s1021.photobucket.com/user/jayg_2010/media/DSC01131_zpsacndbmxt.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Weight Weenie Hydration System
Post by JimFPU on May 15^th, 2017, 4:10pm

Wait. You have a bag on one of your bikes!? [smiley=twitchy.gif]

Title: Re: Weight Weenie Hydration System
Post by jayg on May 15^th, 2017, 5:22pm

JimFPU wrote:

Wait. You have a bag on one of your bikes!? [smiley=twitchy.gif]

Yes, a very small, light-weight one. :D

http://t-cycle.com/fastback-hydration-packs-c-6/storage-packs-c-6_36/fastback-carbon-slim-seatback-bag-p-95.html. Fits three of my bikes with carbon seats. Easy off and on, so I only need one bag for all three bikes.

Title: Re: Weight Weenie Hydration System
Post by JimFPU on May 16^th, 2017, 5:02pm

Jay, I'm disappointed. That bag looks enormous. You could probably fold up a Surrey in there... [smiley=vrolijk_1.gif]

Title: Re: Weight Weenie Hydration System
Post by jayg on May 16^th, 2017, 5:27pm

JimFPU wrote:

Jay, I'm disappointed. That bag looks enormous. You could probably fold up a Surrey in there... [smiley=vrolijk_1.gif]

It's a small bag, believe me. The bike had one of those honking big bags on it when I received it. Replaced it immediately. I will never desecrate any of my recumbents by installing a surrey top. :D

Title: Re: Weight Weenie Hydration System
Post by MrWizard on May 16^th, 2017, 10:22pm

I'm wondering what the weight of all those caps and connectors are vs just a good ol bladder .. there might be a ounce difference in favor the bladder vs all that and a plastic bottle.

jayg wrote:

[quote author=JimFPU link=1494880092/0#3 date=1494972127]Jay, I'm disappointed. That bag looks enormous. You could probably fold up a Surrey in there... [smiley=vrolijk_1.gif]

Title: Re: Weight Weenie Hydration System
Post by jayg on May 17^th, 2017, 2:11pm

MrWizard wrote:

I'm wondering what the weight of all those caps and connectors are vs just a good ol bladder .. there might be a ounce difference in favor the bladder vs all that and a plastic bottle.

[quote author=jayg link=1494880092/0#4 date=1494973674][quote author=JimFPU link=1494880092/0#3 date=1494972127]Jay, I'm disappointed. That bag looks enormous. You could probably fold up a Surrey in there... [smiley=vrolijk_1.gif]

It's a small bag, believe me. The bike had one of those honking big bags on it when I received it. Replaced it immediately. I will never desecrate any of my recumbents by installing a surrey top. :D
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SmartTube hose assembly w/plastic bottle adapter: 2.45 oz.

Small Camelbak bladder (empty) w/hose assembly: 6.85 oz.

I'm only going to be carrying a bottle of water for the last 10 miles of the East Side Ride. Filling a bladder at a Stop & Go is a pain in the azz, besides it won;t fit in the bag along with my other assentials.

Title: Re: Weight Weenie Hydration System
Post by JimFPU on May 18^th, 2017, 8:43pm

jayg wrote:

I will never desecrate any of my recumbents by installing a surrey top. :D

It's because you don't know the power of the Dark side!

http://rbentonline.org/YaBB.pl?num=1346543735/4#4

Title: Re: Weight Weenie Hydration System
Post by Action Lad on May 18^th, 2017, 9:15pm

JimFPU wrote:

[quote author=jayg link=1494880092/0#4 date=1494973674]I will never desecrate any of my recumbents by installing a surrey top. :D

It's because you don't know the power of the Dark side!

http://rbentonline.org/YaBB.pl?num=1346543735/4#4[/quote]Besides, those Flevobike tops are so cool looking on a Quest. 8-)

Title: Re: Weight Weenie Hydration System
Post by jayg on May 18^th, 2017, 10:28pm

JimFPU wrote:

[quote author=jayg link=1494880092/0#4 date=1494973674]I will never desecrate any of my recumbents by installing a surrey top. :D

Title: Re: Weight Weenie Hydration System
Post by MrWizard on May 19^th, 2017, 7:12am

SmartTube hose assembly w/plastic bottle adapter: 2.45 oz.

Small Camelbak bladder (empty) w/hose assembly: 6.85 oz.

I'm only going to be carrying a bottle of water for the last 10 miles of the East Side Ride. Filling a bladder at a Stop & Go is a pain in the azz, besides it won;t fit in the bag along with my other assentials.

Title: Re: Weight Weenie Hydration System
Post by jayg on May 19^th, 2017, 7:57am

MrWizard wrote:

I had to check (because I hate camelbacks) but I love the euro equivalent from Geigerrig http://a.co/8uApHKQ mainly for the reason you cited .. and its a million times easier than a camelback to fill and clean (you just turn it inside out and toss it in the dishwasher)

The 100oz bladder + cut down hose and not including the pressure bulb which I don't take with me was 4.20oz

Not that it matters to me; All of my main rides are north of 50 pounds. ;D

[quote author=jayg link=1494880092/0#6 date=1495048284]

SmartTube hose assembly w/plastic bottle adapter: 2.45 oz.

Small Camelbak bladder (empty) w/hose assembly: 6.85 oz.

I'm only going to be carrying a bottle of water for the last 10 miles of the East Side Ride. Filling a bladder at a Stop & Go is a pain in the azz, besides it won;t fit in the bag along with my other assentials.

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If I could generate the wattage you can, I'd be pulling a 50 pound trailer just to make it fair for other riders. :)

Title: Re: Weight Weenie Hydration System
Post by JimFPU on May 19^th, 2017, 8:56am

jayg wrote:

[quote author=JimFPU link=1494880092/0#7 date=1495158196][quote author=jayg link=1494880092/0#4 date=1494973674]I will never desecrate any of my recumbents by installing a surrey top. :D

It's because you don't know the power of the Dark side!

http://rbentonline.org/YaBB.pl?num=1346543735/4#4[/quote]

Oh my gosh! I've been trying to forget this incident. Now I'm not going to be able to sleep tonight.
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The pic is on the Web...it's out there forrrreeeeveeerrrrrr!

Title: Re: Weight Weenie Hydration System
Post by jayg on May 19^th, 2017, 11:02am

JimFPU wrote:

[quote author=jayg link=1494880092/0#9 date=1495164483][quote author=JimFPU link=1494880092/0#7 date=1495158196][quote author=jayg link=1494880092/0#4 date=1494973674]I will never desecrate any of my recumbents by installing a surrey top. :D

Title: Re: Weight Weenie Hydration System
Post by Action Lad on May 19^th, 2017, 12:27pm

MrWizard wrote:

Doug, thanks for posting that link. I had seen that bottle a while back, and lost track of it. What a great idea to have the water pressurized. I'm really satisfied with my 1 liter Camelbak bladder, but it would be super if the water could be shot into my mouth. Reminds me of wineskins of the 1970s. ;D

Title: Re: Weight Weenie Hydration System
Post by reever on May 27^th, 2017, 5:44pm

Jay, I got one of these--and I don't know if mine is typical or not, but it takes so much energy to get the water out of the doggone bottle!

Any clues on how to minimize the effort?

Title: Re: Weight Weenie Hydration System
Post by jayg on May 27^th, 2017, 7:02pm

reever wrote:

Jay, I got one of these--and I don't know if mine is typical or not, but it takes so much energy to get the water out of the doggone bottle!

Any clues on how to minimize the effort?

I found out the same thing today. The bite valve is what is restricting the flow. Just installed a CamelBak bite valve on it, and now it's working like it should. The SmartTube tubing has a smaller diameter than the CamelBak tubing, so I had to heat it up a little to get the valve on.