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Message started by jayg on May 8^th, 2017, 5:07pm

Title: VK2 Driveline Noise
Post by jayg on May 8^th, 2017, 5:07pm

Don't like driveline noise, so had a problem with the noise the return side of the chain was generating at the short chain tube mounted on the power side idler's carbon chain keeper. The chain was deflected both down and to the right where it passed through the tube. I made the driveline silent on my VTX trike by replacing its short return side chain tube with a toothed idler assembly. So, decided to do the same on the VK2. Chain was even noisier. Took the idler assembly off and installed a longer chain tube. Lots of noise when I test rode the bike. Was considering other options this past Sunday morning when I discovered the true source of the noise - the M4 screw attaching the tube mount to the idler chain keeper was approximately 1/8" too long and was in contact with the large drive side plastic idler. Ground the end of the screw off and re-threaded it. Problem solved, verified by test riding, yesterday.

http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af339/jayg_2010/DSC01110_zpstllrf2bh.jpg (http://s1021.photobucket.com/user/jayg_2010/media/DSC01110_zpstllrf2bh.jpg.html)

Original, short return side chain tube. A little noisy.

http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af339/jayg_2010/DSC01111_zpsdute7dxz.jpg (http://s1021.photobucket.com/user/jayg_2010/media/DSC01111_zpsdute7dxz.jpg.html)

Prototype toothed idler assembly. Would have quietened the driveline significantly, if not for too long mounting screw.

http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af339/jayg_2010/DSC01113_zpsn4loan4q.jpg (http://s1021.photobucket.com/user/jayg_2010/media/DSC01113_zpsn4loan4q.jpg.html)

Longer chain tube quieter than original short tube.

Title: Re: VK2 Driveline Noise
Post by johnnybent on May 8^th, 2017, 7:45pm

And ya saved 1/4 gram shaving
off that excess weight. I swear you have carbon bolts if they made em you weight weenie you.

Title: Re: VK2 Driveline Noise
Post by jayg on May 8^th, 2017, 8:11pm

johnnybent wrote:

And ya saved 1/4 gram shaving
off that excess weight. I swear you have carbon bolts if they made em you weight weenie you.

They don't make carbon bolts? Man, what a downer. Guess you noticed the chain tube clamp is made out of carbon.

Title: Re: VK2 Driveline Noise
Post by johnnybent on May 8^th, 2017, 8:47pm

Well yeah....how's about a carbon bell....10 grams right there.

Title: Re: VK2 Driveline Noise
Post by jrob_bent on May 9^th, 2017, 7:08am

Jay, my hearing is so bad, I don't even notice chain noise. As far as a weight weenie, I am a weight sausage. Me and the bike, and all my things I carry, come in about 260 pounds. Some days it is closer to 270, especially when riding over 40 miles, I carry over a gallon of ice water, like Saturday when I rode with the Corinth Cycling group. I rode 52 miles and ran out of water and Heed a mile from the RV. Me and everything weighed 267 pounds at the start. End of ride I weighed again, 257 pounds.

Title: Re: VK2 Driveline Noise
Post by jayg on May 9^th, 2017, 7:02pm

jrob_bent wrote:

That's impressive. I couldn't even get that much weight rolling, much less up hills. Right now, I'm not even carrying a water bottle.

I can hear annoying noises coming from my bikes, but my hearing is not good enough to pinpoint their locations. Rode the VK2 57 miles today, and chain noise is now at an acceptable (to me) level.

Title: Re: VK2 Driveline Noise
Post by FlyingLaZBoy on May 10^th, 2017, 9:30am

jayg wrote:

I can hear annoying noises coming from my bikes, but my hearing is not good enough to pinpoint their locations.

Maybe it's your bones creaking... [smiley=duel.gif]

Title: Re: VK2 Driveline Noise
Post by jayg on May 10^th, 2017, 10:04am

FlyingLaZBoy wrote:

[quote author=jayg link=1494281232/0#5 date=1494374556]
I can hear annoying noises coming from my bikes, but my hearing is not good enough to pinpoint their locations.

Maybe it's your bones creaking... [smiley=duel.gif]
[/quote]

Very funny. Not. :D

Title: Re: VK2 Driveline Noise
Post by jayg on May 26^th, 2017, 5:01pm

Took the plastic power side idler off the bike and found out the rubber "O" ring that is supposed to be in the groove in the center of the idler was missing. Also, discovered the chain has been chewing on the idler. Smoothed off the idler's circumference in my lathe and installed a new "O" ring. The driveline should be even quieter, now.

Ace Hardware is a good place to purchase idler "O" rings. They have a pretty good selection of large rings.