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Title: Protecting your Average Speed on your Garmin Post by Action Lad on Aug 14th, 2013, 1:24pm John, (FlyingLaZBoy), and I were talking about the GPS and he mentioned that it's possible to change the speed at which the thing turns itself on and off.  "What?!"  I never thought of that.  He said folks on pay rides do it all the time to protect their averages.  Well, after poking around for a while, I finally found it.  It's probably common to all Garmins, and may even be on other machines.  Here's how to do it on an 800: From the main menu: Click on settings, (the box wrench at bottom right) Click on Bike Settings, Auto Pause, Custom Speed Set the speed you want to have the timer turn on/off. May be "duh" info for most, but I would have appreciated it to see it here, myself.   Thanks, John!

Title: Re: Protecting your Average Speed on your Garmin Post by jayg on Aug 14th, 2013, 1:38pm Action Lad wrote: John, (FlyingLaZBoy), and I were talking about the GPS and he mentioned that it's possible to change the speed at which the thing turns itself on and off.  "What?!"  I never thought of that.  He said folks on pay rides do it al the time to protect their averages.  Well, after poking around for a while, I finally found it.  It's probably common to all Garmins, and may even be on other machines.  Here's how to do it on an 800: From the main menu: Click on settings, (the box wrench at bottom right) Click on Bike Settings, Auto Pause, Custom Speed Set the speed you want to have the timer turn on/off. May be "duh" info for most, but I would have appreciated see it here, myself.   Thanks, John!  Aha, now I know how people wind up with 18+ mph averages at Muenster.  :D

Title: Re: Protecting your Average Speed on your Garmin Post by rmillay on Aug 14th, 2013, 2:41pm You protect your average with tire skidding stops at intersections (or no stops at all), jack rabbit starts, and never riding with your slower buddies.  You may be thought a jerk, but you'll know everyone is impressed.  I know I am when some guy finishes behind me with an 18 mph average!   [smiley=wink.gif] Seriously, though, for your regular rides, wouldn't you want to know if you were improving your overall speed, not just your bookkeeping?  In Bikejournal, I just use the distance/time calculator, anyway.

Title: Re: Protecting your Average Speed on your Garmin Post by Action Lad on Aug 14th, 2013, 5:17pm rmillay wrote: Seriously, though, for your regular rides, wouldn't you want to know if you were improving your overall speed, not just your bookkeeping?  In Bikejournal, I just use the distance/time calculator, anyway. No, not really.  I'd rather have my actual riding tell the story, not how I start from a light that's turned green, because I often have to wait for full speed until the cars around me establish their flow.  They often won't go because they want to see the trike perform.  If I take off immediately, there we are like a cloud moving down the street.   I don't want the timer to turn on if I am just rolling around a parking lot, or portaging from one point to another, such as crossing the streets on the Denton Rail Trail. (Video soon) For serious riders, the option makes sense.

Title: Re: Protecting your Average Speed on your Garmin Post by Sweeper on Aug 14th, 2013, 5:42pm I always thought if it sounds like cheating and looks like cheating, it's cheating.  No one really cares but yourself.

Title: Re: Protecting your Average Speed on your Garmin Post by Phantom Rider on Aug 14th, 2013, 5:43pm I have mine set to turn off at speeds under 5 mph.

Title: Re: Protecting your Average Speed on your Garmin Post by Monkeywrangler22 on Aug 14th, 2013, 6:02pm Phantom Rider wrote: I have mine set to turn off at speeds under 5 mph. If I did that, it'd never record my hills! [smiley=shocked.gif]

Title: Re: Protecting your Average Speed on your Garmin Post by TonyWard on Aug 14th, 2013, 6:32pm Phantom Rider wrote: I have mine set to turn off at speeds under 5 mph. Me too.

Title: Re: Protecting your Average Speed on your Garmin Post by Phantom Rider on Aug 14th, 2013, 7:02pm then you are assured to have a higher averge ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Protecting your Average Speed on your Garmin Post by LightningPilot on Aug 14th, 2013, 8:23pm Sweeper wrote: I always thought if it sounds like cheating and looks like cheating, it's cheating.  No one really cares but yourself.  ;D Agreed!

Title: Re: Protecting your Average Speed on your Garmin Post by Bud_Bent on Aug 15th, 2013, 8:46pm I set mine to turn off at less than 4 mph. There are hills that I pedal at less than 5 mph, so that seemed too high.

Title: Re: Protecting your Average Speed on your Garmin Post by Action Lad on Aug 16th, 2013, 9:37am Bud_Bent wrote: I set mine to turn off at less than 4 mph. There are hills that I pedal at less than 5 mph, so that seemed too high. That's appropriate.

Title: Re: Protecting your Average Speed on your Garmin Post by Phantom Rider on Aug 16th, 2013, 10:48am The key would be to know how you ride and set it accordingly, mine has never gone off except at stop signs and lights.  I do watch it on steep climbs just to make sure that I don't drop below 5 and turn it off.  The resume feature is very quick to pick back up as well.

Title: Re: Protecting your Average Speed on your Garmin Post by TonyWard on Aug 16th, 2013, 12:10pm I wouldn't fret too much about the "cheating" part of it.  Even if you have it set to turn off under x mph the Garmin still shows your regular avg speed (not the "cheating" speed) - at least my 705 does.  In addition, you get both speeds on Garmin connect and it uses the lower avg speed when it runs reports and shows it in the listing of rides.  On my typical rides in traffic I usually get a .1 mph boost to my avg by setting it to turn off if under 5mph.  And besides slow vs. slow + .1mph isn't really gonna impress anyone. Now if I forget to turn off the GPS and drive home that might really turn some heads!

Title: Re: Protecting your Average Speed on your Garmin Post by Bud_Bent on Aug 16th, 2013, 2:11pm Yes, it's easy enough to get your overall time and speed. Setting the Garmin to turn off at almost stopped speeds lets it do a nice job of showing you your "on the bike" average speed for a given ride.

Title: Re: Protecting your Average Speed on your Garmin Post by Action Lad on Aug 16th, 2013, 9:15pm TonyWard wrote: I wouldn't fret too much about the "cheating" part of it.  Even if you have it set to turn off under x mph the Garmin still shows your regular avg speed (not the "cheating" speed) - at least my 705 does.  In addition, you get both speeds on Garmin connect and it uses the lower avg speed when it runs reports and shows it in the listing of rides.  On my typical rides in traffic I usually get a .1 mph boost to my avg by setting it to turn off if under 5mph.  And besides slow vs. slow + .1mph isn't really gonna impress anyone. Now if I forget to turn off the GPS and drive home that might really turn some heads! Very interesting info.  Thanks, Tony.

Title: Re: Protecting your Average Speed on your Garmin Post by Monkeywrangler22 on Oct 1st, 2013, 3:36pm I finally dropped my custom cut-off speed to 1mph.  I use this gps when I take the dogs out walking and at my former 3mph, it would cycle on/off all the time.

Title: Re: Protecting your Average Speed on your Garmin Post by LightningPilot on Oct 1st, 2013, 7:14pm Monkeywrangler22 wrote: I finally dropped my custom cut-off speed to 1mph.  I use this gps when I take the dogs out walking and at my former 3mph, it would cycle on/off all the time. Exactly; I use mine for dog walking as well. Still on factory settings :-)

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