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Message started by power_bent on Jul 18^th, 2011, 9:29pm

Title: Shifters/derailer
Post by power_bent on Jul 18^th, 2011, 9:29pm

Can you guys chime in on what setup you have as what rear derailer with bar end shifters?? ( 9 or 10 speed)
Like 9 speed bar end shifter w/high-normal rear derailer.

I am wondering if i need to change it to 9 sp bar end w/ low-normal rear derailer?
Thanks

Title: Re: Shifters/derailer
Post by power_bent on Jul 20^th, 2011, 1:59pm

Thanks guys for chiming in?????

Title: Re: Shifters/derailer
Post by johnnybent on Jul 20^th, 2011, 3:42pm

You are asking a too general a question. Ask, can I use a 6 speed shimano bar end shifter with a 10 speed dura-ace derailer? for example. Or what cassette are you wanting to use.

Title: Re: Shifters/derailer
Post by power_bent on Jul 20^th, 2011, 9:05pm

Like 9 speed bar end shifter w/high-normal rear derailer.

If your running a Bar End 9 speed rear shifter, are you running a high or low -normal rear derailer.......

Title: Re: Shifters/derailer
Post by johnnybent on Jul 20^th, 2011, 10:19pm

Ok, had a look at my stick bike with bar ends. I would call it a low normal long cage derailuer.

Title: Re: Shifters/derailer
Post by power_bent on Jul 21^st, 2011, 9:08am

Is your derailer a rapid rise kind?

Title: Re: Shifters/derailer
Post by johnnybent on Jul 21^st, 2011, 1:50pm

I don't know, I don't care, it works, I ride.......

Title: Re: Shifters/derailer
Post by Bud_Bent on Jul 21^st, 2011, 2:12pm

Ah, I had no idea you were talking about rapid rise. Isn't the Shimano XTR the only rapid rise derailleur around these days? Why would it matter whether a bar end shifter was paired with a rapid rise derailleur or not? It would just shift backwards if it was, wouldn't it?

Title: Re: Shifters/derailer
Post by power_bent on Jul 21^st, 2011, 5:50pm

From what i read, the shifting is still in the same motion for low and high, It just the push and pull is different. I also read that the rapid rise spring pulls the dereailer to the low gears which is the big cog on back, which in return works better with bar end shifters because of the indexes.

The rapid Rise derailer is making a comeback from what i heard.

On my trike when i go from high to lower gears i have to push the shifter back up to the index click that i just pass the keep the chain from clicking like it trying to grab the next gear.But when i go from low to high it there without haveing to move shifter for finer tune of that gear.
It may be that my bar end shifter is worn..

BTW Johnny thanks for the reply...

Title: Re: Shifters/derailer
Post by power_bent on Jul 24^th, 2011, 8:02pm

Went to Easystreet recumbent Sat the 23rd and went ahead and took my catrike . Got there when they open. Got a New Rear Bar End shifter and that was mostly the whole problem with the index shifting. Everything on the driveline is new. My old one Bar End deffently was worn out. While we were there they had sold three trikes. One Ice and two Rovers.We were talking to the man that was buying the Ice and convence him to buy rack, pedals, flag, mirrows.and some little stuff to go along with it ..
Easystreet had a great day yesterday..

Title: Re: Shifters/derailer
Post by tojesky on Jul 25^th, 2011, 5:40pm

The way I've heard, low normal (spring pushes toward larger sprocket) is preferred by moutain bikers because they want a quicker downshift which low normal derailers allow. Road Racers typically want a quicker upshift and high normal derailers (spring loaded to small sprocket) accommodate this characteristic.

I have bar end shifters with my high normal on a Corsa and it works fine. I had a problem with cable stickiness when I first got the bike (used - 3500 miles) but used a good teflon lube when I changed cables and now do not have any issues - Crisp up and down shifts.

Tim

power_bent wrote:

Title: Re: Shifters/derailer
Post by power_bent on Jul 25^th, 2011, 7:18pm

When me and Eddie was doing the bike build last sunday. He got a bike tthat was low-normal derailer and it was shifting backwards. I think us as recumbent rider could use the low-normal because we use the low gear for hill climbing as to spin more that the upright bike do. With my trike and new bar end now it works fine. High-normal with bar end.
Thanks