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Message started by aikigreg on Feb 1st, 2010, 10:31pm

Title: 200k Saturday and Sunday
Post by aikigreg on Feb 1st, 2010, 10:31pm

I'm either doing La Belle Rani Duocente out of Italy, or Cheeburger Cheebuerger on Saturday and Sunday.  I'm awaiting a reply from Nelsonbefore I decide.  I "plan" on doing this rather quickly as a final tune-up for Sebring, so minimal stoppage and hopefully around an 8 hour time give or take.  I'd love company for all or part of the ride, if anyone wants to come.

If it's LBRD, then you have to sign the waiver and mail it to Bill beforehand, which is a PITA, but it's a fairly flat route all things considered so it should go fast.

Title: Re: 200k Saturday and Sunday
Post by Kwijybow on Feb 1st, 2010, 11:08pm

I need to write our new Permanents Coordinator and update the RUSA database.  Seems the initial figure taken from Bikely under reports the actual climbing on the route by quite a bit.  Most people with the right gear tell me @5500' of climbing, mostly in the 10 miles before you get to Forestburg.

The Route in my opinion is quite a bit more challenging than the Italy ride.  Also there has been a several month project to redo the road surface on FM121 between Gunter and Tioga, taking it down to dirt before repaving.  Not sure what the status is currently, although Steve may know as it affected Bobcat Bite as well.  The part from Gunter to Wall Street Rd hasn't been touched yet I know.  Not trying to disuade you, just making a full disclosure.  

8 hrs would be a very good time on Cheeburger.

Take Care,
Nelson.

Title: Re: 200k Saturday and Sunday
Post by aikigreg on Feb 1st, 2010, 11:10pm

Anyone have any idea?

Title: Re: 200k Saturday and Sunday
Post by Bud_Bent on Feb 2nd, 2010, 7:00am

The climbing on a number of permanents is way understated, including Prairie Hill Roundup. You should have made a trip to Wichita Falls and done the HHH 200k permanent, Greg. It's likely flatter than anything here.

Title: Re: 200k Saturday and Sunday
Post by Killer Bee on Feb 2nd, 2010, 8:15am


aikigreg wrote:
I'm either doing La Belle Rani Duocente out of Italy, or Cheeburger Cheebuerger on Saturday and Sunday.  I'm awaiting a reply from Nelsonbefore I decide.  I "plan" on doing this rather quickly as a final tune-up for Sebring, so minimal stoppage and hopefully around an 8 hour time give or take.  I'd love company for all or part of the ride, if anyone wants to come.

If it's LBRD, then you have to sign the waiver and mail it to Bill beforehand, which is a PITA, but it's a fairly flat route all things considered so it should go fast.



Greg,  Cheeseburger is torn up(Fm 121 outside of Tioga-as Nelson mentioned). I would pick another route if I were you. FM 121 is horrible, sand/gravel(Bud, Nelson, Peggy...remember how bad Boomer was with the construction-same with Cheeseburger).

Title: Re: 200k Saturday and Sunday
Post by aikigreg on Feb 2nd, 2010, 10:27am

So it's Italy.  Wichita Falls wouldn't be a bad idea, but it's over 2 hours.  Italy is a bit less than an hour.  I don't mind some climbing, but the idea is to be able to spend as much time as possible spinning in the big ring, which I haven't done much of in a long time.  I'd do peachy keene except if I remember right it's got a lot of turns.

Shucks if I have to I can just go up and down the trinity trails all day.  I don't need the mileage or anything.

Title: Re: 200k Saturday and Sunday
Post by bikerteam on Feb 4th, 2010, 12:14pm

If you want trama training, ride Spanish Fort.  As you know, not many turns, and it would be a good route to try to break 8 hours with minimal stops.  Pretty decent roads, comparitively speaking...

Title: Re: 200k Saturday and Sunday
Post by aikigreg on Feb 4th, 2010, 12:19pm


bikerteam wrote:
If you want trama training, ride Spanish Fort.  As you know, not many turns, and it would be a good route to try to break 8 hours with minimal stops.  Pretty decent roads, comparitively speaking...


Yes, and honestly Spanish fort is one of my faves because of the hills - you know how I love em.  But it doesn't provide enough flat "big ring" training which is what I'm going for.  I want long fairly flat stretches where I can keep it in the big no matter what.  Plus be able to recover enough to do it the next day.  I'll be doing SF a lot pre-RAO though and pre TTTT you betcha!

Title: Re: 200k Saturday and Sunday
Post by Kwijybow on Feb 4th, 2010, 1:18pm

Well I saw people were going to ride Prairie Hill Roundup, which while not completely flat is definitely one of the flatter routes, and one of the fastest 200K's I've done, not 8hrs fast but for me fast.  

I would really like to try a speed run on Cheeburger sometime, that was my orginal conception for it.  E-W route, so most likely sidewinds instead of headwind/tailwind.  Also only the the start, turnaround, and finish controls required, but other stops available if needed.  Minimal turns, and just at 203K pretty close to 200.  Also the nature of the route has the sun behind you roughly on the Outbound, and then the Inbound portions, helping with visibility and being seen.  Its pretty flat or rolling for the most part up unto the climb into Forestburg.  I love benchmarking things, and wanted to benchmark various bike setups and myself.  But Alas, funny how life interferes with such things, and I really haven't done too much of that.  Maybe this year.  Hopefully the construction is nearing an end as well.  That will be the first thing to determine, I will do my best to check it out this weekend.

Take Care,
Nelson.

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