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Message started by Bud_Bent on Jul 28th, 2008, 10:07pm

Title: August 2nd LSR 200k and 300k brevets
Post by Bud_Bent on Jul 28th, 2008, 10:07pm

This coming Saturday, August 2nd, the Lone Star Randonneurs are having 200k and 300k brevets that start in Italy at 6:30 am. You can find more info here (http://lonestarrandon.tripod.com/brevet_schedule/2008/2008_brevet_schedule.html).

These routes are fairly flat, with no really tough hills, and all the control stop stores have tables inside for sitting and cooling off. I plan on riding the 200k brevet.

Title: Re: August 2nd LSR 200k and 300k brevets
Post by Strada177 on Jul 28th, 2008, 10:09pm

Peggy & I will tackle the 200K brevet as well.

Title: Re: August 2nd LSR 200k and 300k brevets
Post by aikigreg on Jul 28th, 2008, 11:20pm

I haven't decided for sure, but I'm likely going to do the 300k

Title: Re: August 2nd LSR 200k and 300k brevets
Post by barlows on Jul 29th, 2008, 6:40am

Do the 300 man!!  Just make sure you only map the 300 in your Garmin, then it's settled!!

I'll be there for the 300.

Steve

Title: Re: August 2nd LSR 200k and 300k brevets
Post by aikigreg on Jul 29th, 2008, 9:59am

sweet dude.  If I have someone I know I can ride with who'll pace me as well as you do, that helps.   It's good to have someone at your back who can haul your carcass off the road if you faint :)

Title: Re: August 2nd LSR 200k and 300k brevets
Post by FlyingLaZBoy on Jul 29th, 2008, 1:26pm

Y'all have fun out there in the 105 degrees...   :o   :-/

I'm gonna drag Terrie outta bed for a 6:30AM ride as well that morning, but only about 20 miles worth...   ;)

Title: Re: August 2nd LSR 200k and 300k brevets
Post by MrOverdressed on Jul 29th, 2008, 1:34pm

Im thinking about the 200K on the baron.  What if I DNF?   Will someone recsue me or would I need to call a stoker babe?  I plan on bringing $$$ to pay a rescue bribe.  

Terry

Title: Re: August 2nd LSR 200k and 300k brevets
Post by Bud_Bent on Jul 29th, 2008, 2:03pm


MrOverdressed wrote:
Im thinking about the 200K on the baron.  What if I DNF?   Will someone recsue me or would I need to call a stoker babe?  I plan on bringing $$$ to pay a rescue bribe.  

Terry


RUSA (http://www.rusa.org/) membership is required for this 200k.

Speaking of RUSA, here's their definition of randonneuring: Randonneuring is long-distance unsupported endurance cycling. This style of riding is non-competitive in nature, and self-sufficiency is paramount.

So, if you dnf, you're on your own...

Title: Re: August 2nd LSR 200k and 300k brevets
Post by evblazer on Jul 29th, 2008, 2:25pm

Is LSR membership also required? I had sent one in but it got returned because I didn't finish the address and I think just never bothered to send it again. However they just finally cashed my RUSA membership check after 3 months so maybe I did? *shrug*


Title: Re: August 2nd LSR 200k and 300k brevets
Post by aikigreg on Jul 29th, 2008, 2:26pm


MrOverdressed wrote:
Im thinking about the 200K on the baron.  What if I DNF?   Will someone recsue me or would I need to call a stoker babe?  I plan on bringing $$$ to pay a rescue bribe.  

Terry



Like Bud said.  I DNFed last year on this exact ride and ended up having to call Alexis to drive 1.5 hours to get me.  On Rando rides you need to:

1.  be fit enough to pedal 130 miles.  In the heat.  And chipseal.  With no shade on this particular route.
2.  Be able to do the ride by yourself if need be.
3.  Know your body enough to know how to hydrate and feed yourself for this kind of ride.
4.  carry as much as you can to ensure you can fix it yourself if something happpens on a brevet.

I honestly don't think this is the ride for you, Terry.  You need to have a few centuries under your belt before attempting this.  But I am positive you'd be ready to do some fall 200ks for sure!

Title: Re: August 2nd LSR 200k and 300k brevets
Post by aikigreg on Jul 29th, 2008, 2:26pm


evblazer wrote:
Is LSR membership also required? I had sent one in but it got returned because I didn't finish the address and I think just never bothered to send it again. However they just finally cashed my RUSA membership check after 3 months so maybe I did? *shrug*



Yes it sure is!

Title: Re: August 2nd LSR 200k and 300k brevets
Post by evblazer on Jul 29th, 2008, 2:33pm

I need to see if I can get some spokes before I even consider it and figure out how to register with LSR by saturday.

My new wheels won't seem to take fiberfix spokes and will probably taco if I break a spoke and try and ride it.

My only century is the 200k a few months ago but there wasn't heat then. I am used to the heat from my commute and other rides so I don't think that would cause issues.


Title: Re: August 2nd LSR 200k and 300k brevets
Post by aikigreg on Jul 29th, 2008, 2:44pm


evblazer wrote:
I need to see if I can get some spokes before I even consider it and figure out how to register with LSR by saturday.

My new wheels won't seem to take fiberfix spokes and will probably taco if I break a spoke and try and ride it.

My only century is the 200k a few months ago but there wasn't heat then. I am used to the heat from my commute and other rides so I don't think that would cause issues.


Registering would be easy - drop your check in the mail to dan and boom you're done!  It's pretty relaxed since you already ahve your RUSA number.

Title: Re: August 2nd LSR 200k and 300k brevets
Post by MrOverdressed on Jul 29th, 2008, 3:56pm

Does anyone have the cue sheet?  Its not on the LSR website.   And does anyone have a Garmin route file for the 200K.

Thank you Greg for the worthy advice I will be very very careful.  Its been my experience that as long as Im in decent shape then the extra miles are a matter of nutrition.  I can make it as long as I keep hydrated and energized.  

I wont roll on this without a GPS mapping the route.  I dont think I have enough time to score a Garmin edge 705.  So Im looking into using my Smart Phone (a Samsung Blackjack II) running Garmin XT.   It should be able to read the standard Garmin Route files if someone made one.  

Sincerely
Terry



aikigreg wrote:
Like Bud said.  I DNFed last year on this exact ride and ended up having to call Alexis to drive 1.5 hours to get me.  On Rando rides you need to:

1.  be fit enough to pedal 130 miles.  In the heat.  And chipseal.  With no shade on this particular route.
2.  Be able to do the ride by yourself if need be.
3.  Know your body enough to know how to hydrate and feed yourself for this kind of ride.
4.  carry as much as you can to ensure you can fix it yourself if something happpens on a brevet.

I honestly don't think this is the ride for you, Terry.  You need to have a few centuries under your belt before attempting this.  But I am positive you'd be ready to do some fall 200ks for sure!


Title: Re: August 2nd LSR 200k and 300k brevets
Post by aikigreg on Jul 29th, 2008, 4:11pm

Here you go then, Terry.    This si the 200k route

http://www.mapmyride.com/ride/united-states/tx/italy/806828651

Title: Re: August 2nd LSR 200k and 300k brevets
Post by MrOverdressed on Jul 29th, 2008, 4:51pm

I received the 200K CUE sheet from LSR member Sharon Stevens (a known Cycling Goddess).  She was listed on the LSR website as their contact for the ride.  I posted the file on my server here:  http://terry.pickl.com/ftproot/200k-Italy-Brevet.xls  For anyone who wants it.

Sincerely
Terry

Title: Re: August 2nd LSR 200k and 300k brevets
Post by aikigreg on Jul 29th, 2008, 6:53pm

BTW terry, you do know you must be a LSR and RUSA member to ride this ride, right?

Title: Re: August 2nd LSR 200k and 300k brevets
Post by evblazer on Jul 29th, 2008, 8:53pm

Ok sent in my membership and check and notified sharon via email of my intent on riding.
Called my bikeshop about spokes so hopefully they'll be able to get some. If not I may get to try out the bicycle towing option I got on my better world club (AAA type thing) membership.

It may be my last ride (Verizon Reasons shhh)  for a while and I really gotta get some miles on the clock anyhow.

Title: Re: August 2nd LSR 200k and 300k brevets
Post by MrOverdressed on Jul 30th, 2008, 9:34am

I was looking into this.  RUSA is old-school mail application and they process and mail back membership.  So it may take several weekes for them to do this.  So all I can do is  fill out the papper work and tell LSR that the check in in the mail.  




aikigreg wrote:
BTW terry, you do know you must be a LSR and RUSA member to ride this ride, right?


Title: Re: August 2nd LSR 200k and 300k brevets
Post by Kwijybow on Jul 30th, 2008, 11:25am

That should work, or you could also bring it to the ride and give it to Dan or the ride coordinator (Sharon I believe).

Take Care,
Nelson.

Title: Re: August 2nd LSR 200k and 300k brevets
Post by barlows on Jul 31st, 2008, 12:22am

Like Nelson said, just bring the RUSA application to the ride if you haven't already mailed it.  If you have mailed it, things are pretty laid back.  Just email Dan Driscoll (driscoll@flash.net) or Sharon Stevens (sstevens@deep-south.com) before the ride to let them know your intentions.  On my first couple Brevets, I hadn't received confirmation back from RUSA either, and things were cool.

Steve

Title: Re: August 2nd LSR 200k and 300k brevets
Post by FlyingLaZBoy on Jul 31st, 2008, 11:50am

I can't stress enough to watch your level of effort and your fluids in the afternoon, especially youse newbies...  the typical brevet has 30 miles or so between stops, and they're still calling for highs approaching 105 on Saturday...  For the 200K'ers, it's a LONG, hilly 30+ miles from Dixie's Little Stop back to Italy.  Riding HHH in 105 is one thing, with rest stop options every 10 miles or so -- this is another.

Title: Re: August 2nd LSR 200k and 300k brevets
Post by Strada177 on Jul 31st, 2008, 1:31pm


Kwijybow wrote:
That should work, or you could also bring it to the ride and give it to Dan or the ride coordinator (Sharon I believe).

Take Care,
Nelson.


Yeah...we don't need the "rando" cops disqualifying any riders because someone wasn't a LSR member.  Dan is actually going to be in Colorado this weekend. But give any/all information to Sharon Stevens. AND the randos will leave promptly at 6:30am...they don't waste time at the starts.

Paul ,makes a great point about hydration ,& let me add nutrition(you gotta fuel the body).

Title: Re: August 2nd LSR 200k and 300k brevets
Post by MrOverdressed on Jul 31st, 2008, 4:59pm

Im getting intimidated by the hot weather.  So it looks like Im going to wimp-out and goto good ole white rock.
:)
Terry

Title: Re: August 2nd LSR 200k and 300k brevets
Post by barlows on Aug 1st, 2008, 4:51am

Here's the 300K mapped route : http://www.mapmyride.com/route/us/tx/italy/50608049

Steve

Title: Re: August 2nd LSR 200k and 300k brevets
Post by aikigreg on Aug 1st, 2008, 4:48pm

well, I oughta be ready for sure!  apart from my usual repair kit which includes a spare tire, and my mix + a full bottle of gel, I have a second gel bottle and a second bag of powder mix.  If I don't finish this ride, it won't be because of caloric deficit!

..even bringing my lights.

Title: Re: August 2nd LSR 200k and 300k brevets
Post by FlyingLaZBoy on Aug 1st, 2008, 5:32pm


Brad Bedell wrote:
...and some sort of bar every rest stop....  


Ah, now THERE's a bike route... a bar at every rest stop...   :D

Title: Re: August 2nd LSR 200k and 300k brevets
Post by aikigreg on Aug 1st, 2008, 6:37pm


Brad Bedell wrote:
[quote author=aikigreg link=1217300852/15#25 date=1217627293]well, I oughta be ready for sure!  apart from my usual repair kit which includes a spare tire, and my mix + a full bottle of gel, I have a second gel bottle and a second bag of powder mix.  If I don't finish this ride, it won't be because of caloric deficit!

..even bringing my lights.



Greg,  lets work on some 'bent paceline skills.     It should make it easier for everyone.  


You'll also need some protein and other foods.    I figure I'll take in a gel shot every 30-45 minutes, a 24 oz gatoraid and some sort of bar every rest stop.  

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We can do a little pacelining, but I'm not planning on doing anything at speed tomorrow.  This'll be my first 300k, so I want to make sure I finish with style as a setup for a 400k later this year.  I take a big swig of gel every 10-15 miles, take long pulls of my liquid mix - which has protein, and always try to have solid food of some sort - preferably subway or such - at every control.  200k's have been easy this year, so I think I'll be ok.  The extra stuff I'm bringing is emergency stuff more than anything.

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