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Jun 8th, 2017, 8:46pm
 
Paul, is the 3rd Thursday TT's going to happen this year?
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Reply #1 - Jun 15th, 2017, 11:00am
 
No - we have killed it for the time being, due to the bad road surface conditions on Lawson Rd. between Scyene and Devil's Bowl speedway...  and Berry Rd. ain't no picnic, either.  If they ever resurface it, we'll look into starting it back up again.
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Reply #2 - Jun 15th, 2017, 11:24am
 
I understand about the bad roads. Maybe the powers that be will resurface them soon.  
 
On another note, I just found out they have a great velodrome in Frisco. It is called the SuperDrome. They do track racing there. It is not recumbent, but they go fast! $200 for the year, or $10 a visit, plus $10 bike rental, unless you bring your own track only bike. You can start training at 8 years old, and racing at 14. In three years and my oldest grandson can start. I am going to check it out for this old guy too!
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Reply #3 - Jun 16th, 2017, 6:35am
 
I have a love/hate relationship with that place ..    Years ago I set the 1 hour track record in my rotator streamliner ..   It was "unoffical" as it wasn't a track bike but it was recorded and kept around for posterity ..
 
Then it was gone .. erased from the wall, the website ..  etc ...   When I inquired about it I was told that at first that recumbents were *never* allowed on the track .. when I pointed out that in fact I have pictures, videos, witnesses, tv interviews etc and challenged that assertion I was then told it was removed because of "safety" reasons and never should have been allowed in the first place  Smiley
 
 
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Quote from jrob_bent on Jun 15th, 2017, 11:24am:
I understand about the bad roads. Maybe the powers that be will resurface them soon.

On another note, I just found out they have a great velodrome in Frisco. It is called the SuperDrome. They do track racing there. It is not recumbent, but they go fast! $200 for the year, or $10 a visit, plus $10 bike rental, unless you bring your own track only bike. You can start training at 8 years old, and racing at 14. In three years and my oldest grandson can start. I am going to check it out for this old guy too!

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Reply #4 - Jun 16th, 2017, 8:44am
 
Yep, significant non-track-bike bias with those folks.....   wouldn't want DF racers to look inferior, would we?
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Reply #5 - Jun 16th, 2017, 9:50am
 
At the time I road a track bike as well .. (which IMO is worth the time to experience if you ever get a chance)     It wasn't until the management change out there back about 6-7 years ago that the bias set in ..  and set in hard it did  ..    
 
It does seem that a place that struggles financially year over year would have a slightly different attitude.   I do understand the "safety" concern with DF bikes equipped with brakes and / or lower bottom brackets where the pedals could touch the surface in the banks .   But recumbents suffer from none of this; nor do mostly enclosed streamliners or velomobiles.  
 
 
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Yep, significant non-track-bike bias with those folks.....   wouldn't want DF racers to look inferior, would we?

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Reply #6 - Jun 16th, 2017, 3:06pm
 
Yes, they really do struggle with money/funds. It seems they would want as many people coming as they could get. Have recumbents on a different time/day. Oh well, it seems I am moving around Lake Worth, which is way too far to drive to anyway. It is closer to WRL though! i sure wish I had gotten back into bicycles 30-40 years ago. It is hard to get faster and stay there when in your mid 60's. My 5 year old grandson is going to be fast. He can hit 14-15 mph on his little 20" bike already. Maybe if he stays interested, he will be a track sprinter.
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Reply #7 - Jun 16th, 2017, 9:54pm
 
Doug, if that is a Rotator Pursuit streamliner, I saw that picture on a website not too long ago. Cool! I will try to find the website. I remember it was all about Texas home built velomobiles and streamliners. This big old head doesn't store info very well anymore! About the only thing it is good for, is holding a helmet on top of it. Smiley
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Reply #8 - Jun 17th, 2017, 7:20am
 
Its technically a Rotator Coyote,   There were only two ever made, Dean Peterson has the other one.  Though they are quite a bit different internally as his is RWD  and a bit more streatable ..  Mine is FWD and was really supposed to go fast and pretty much nothing else.  (it has limited steering due to the chain line)     The shells of both  were both built out of the Gold Rush molds ; I actually still have it and the multiple  shells for it.      
 
I'd love to see the article if you can find it.   I know all about old age and decrepitude so I can completely understand if you can't find it.  
 
Quote from jrob_bent on Jun 16th, 2017, 9:54pm:
Doug, if that is a Rotator Pursuit streamliner, I saw that picture on a website not too long ago. Cool! I will try to find the website. I remember it was all about Texas home built velomobiles and streamliners. This big old head doesn't store info very well anymore! About the only thing it is good for, is holding a helmet on top of it. Smiley

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Reply #9 - Jun 17th, 2017, 10:50am
 
I found this one Doug. http://www.recumbents.com/wisil/racing2004/SanJose/Amick/Dean%20Pederson%20in%20 Rotator%20Coyote.jpg. Still looking for the other article with you in it.
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Reply #10 - Jun 17th, 2017, 2:18pm
 
I must have had a really bad senior moment! I am intrigued and would love to see the Coyote. Dean did 55 mph at Battle Mountain, but Sam Whittingham would probably have gone 70+ in it! Or Fast Freddie.
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Reply #11 - Jun 18th, 2017, 1:52pm
 
Very fast bike --  I was able able to hit ~60mph in sprints on the velodrome with the closed shell..   I could maintain 40mph for pretty much as long as I wanted.   It got hottern heck in there and humid.  At one point I had drilled little holes in the windscreen to help dump the humidity, it sort of worked but there was still pretty of fogging .. you'd ride thought something that looked like ||||   Grin    I had my sights set on battle mountain as well ..  I was strong back then, but not in those guys class .  no doubt a stronger rider could have done more with it.
 
Dean used to ride his in payrides out in CA with the mid-shell (all the lower clear bits) in the picture removed except for the windscreen - giving footholes..    If you look at mine theres no openings down there -- also no subframe .. Dean has a aluminum rail down the middle which holds the drivetrain, like a Pursuit ;  Mine is really just a FWD drive train with a small axel in the rear.. There is literally nothing but shell from the front to the back.
 
 
Quote from jrob_bent on Jun 17th, 2017, 2:18pm:
I must have had a really bad senior moment! I am intrigued and would love to see the Coyote. Dean did 55 mph at Battle Mountain, but Sam Whittingham would probably have gone 70+ in it! Or Fast Freddie.

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Reply #12 - Jun 18th, 2017, 4:42pm
 
Sounds like you were a pretty strong rider yourself. 60 mph at the velodrome is very, very fast! I read where Dean was hitting 60+ at Battle Mountain, but mis-judged the sprint at the finish and ran out of steam. He went too hard in the middle section. Wish I had been around back when you were racing.  
 
Whenever it would be convenient for you, I would love to come over and see this great bike, and the rest of your stable. I am still trying to find the article about you and the Coyote at the Superdrome. It is like it vanished! I am not giving up though.
 
 
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Very fast bike --  I was able able to hit ~60mph in sprints on the velodrome with the closed shell..   I could maintain 40mph for pretty much as long as I wanted.   It got hottern heck in there and humid.  At one point I had drilled little holes in the windscreen to help dump the humidity, it sort of worked but there was still pretty of fogging .. you'd ride thought something that looked like ||||   Grin    I had my sights set on battle mountain as well ..  I was strong back then, but not in those guys class .  no doubt a stronger rider could have done more with it.

Dean used to ride his in payrides out in CA with the mid-shell (all the lower clear bits) in the picture removed except for the windscreen - giving footholes..    If you look at mine theres no openings down there -- also no subframe .. Dean has a aluminum rail down the middle which holds the drivetrain, like a Pursuit ;  Mine is really just a FWD drive train with a small axel in the rear.. There is literally nothing but shell from the front to the back.


Quote from jrob_bent on Jun 17th, 2017, 2:18pm:
I must have had a really bad senior moment! I am intrigued and would love to see the Coyote. Dean did 55 mph at Battle Mountain, but Sam Whittingham would probably have gone 70+ in it! Or Fast Freddie.


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Reply #13 - Jun 18th, 2017, 6:00pm
 
I just found this, Dean Pedersen going 78 mph at BM in his Rotator Coyote. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4EDF581257D82E6B. That is pretty darn fast! Well the caption said Dean, the video says Fast Freddie! Now I am really confused. Smiley
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Reply #14 - Jun 18th, 2017, 11:02pm
 
I'm about to embark on a serious garage cleaning exercise over the next week or so ..    I've got some equipment coming in (a newer CNC mill)  and need to make room for it .. after that I should have a completely dedicated bike shop and space ..    You'd be welcome of course at any time.  
 
A Lot of that superdrome stuff of mine vanished .. I had a few that I had saved one paper, but a lot online dissappeared over the years and I'm kicking myself for not saving them myself .
 
I also have a VHS tape of the channel 11 and channel 13 interviews that I need to go digitize as well.    So much to do -- so little time  
 
 
 
Quote from jrob_bent on Jun 18th, 2017, 4:42pm:
Sounds like you were a pretty strong rider yourself. 60 mph at the velodrome is very, very fast! I read where Dean was hitting 60+ at Battle Mountain, but mis-judged the sprint at the finish and ran out of steam. He went too hard in the middle section. Wish I had been around back when you were racing.

Whenever it would be convenient for you, I would love to come over and see this great bike, and the rest of your stable. I am still trying to find the article about you and the Coyote at the Superdrome. It is like it vanished! I am not giving up though.


Quote from MrWizard on Jun 18th, 2017, 1:52pm:
Very fast bike --  I was able able to hit ~60mph in sprints on the velodrome with the closed shell..   I could maintain 40mph for pretty much as long as I wanted.   It got hottern heck in there and humid.  At one point I had drilled little holes in the windscreen to help dump the humidity, it sort of worked but there was still pretty of fogging .. you'd ride thought something that looked like ||||   Grin    I had my sights set on battle mountain as well ..  I was strong back then, but not in those guys class .  no doubt a stronger rider could have done more with it.

Dean used to ride his in payrides out in CA with the mid-shell (all the lower clear bits) in the picture removed except for the windscreen - giving footholes..    If you look at mine theres no openings down there -- also no subframe .. Dean has a aluminum rail down the middle which holds the drivetrain, like a Pursuit ;  Mine is really just a FWD drive train with a small axel in the rear.. There is literally nothing but shell from the front to the back.


Quote from jrob_bent on Jun 17th, 2017, 2:18pm:
I must have had a really bad senior moment! I am intrigued and would love to see the Coyote. Dean did 55 mph at Battle Mountain, but Sam Whittingham would probably have gone 70+ in it! Or Fast Freddie.



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