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Reply #645 - Aug 10^th, 2016, 9:42pm

Got me a pair of new choos. Most expensive footware I've ever bought. Fine handmade Italian shoes...Bought a pair of Sidi Dragon carbon sole megas from Performance Bike. Had them shipped to the store, paid full price for them. They fit a little small, so returned them and ordered a half size bigger. When I did that transaction, they had a big sale going on, and the guy refunded me 20% to get me the sale price...mighty nice of him! I really like the spin dial tighteners on these shoes.

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Reply #646 - Oct 8^th, 2016, 11:38am

I finally wised up and followed the advice of several wise people on this forum and others. I have purchased from bike smith a set of SRAM APex 150mm cranks set up with 36/52 Rotor Q rings.

I have to say this is probably the best add on purchase I have ever made to a bike. The difference in my pedal stroke is truly phenomenal, it is so smooth that I am in awe when riding it. I have made comments before about knee pain and jay on several occasions has said "you need to try shorter cranks", wish I had listened a long time ago.

Mark Stonich is an amazing guy and was very patient in guiding me through the decision process. The guidance Mark provided as to setup and how to adjust my seat(CA2) was spot on. I followed his directions and had the bike set in the perfect position for me in about 10 minutes.

Yesterday I logged 28 miles and another 60 this morning with NO KNEE PAIN at all. I haven't seen any significant change in speed but my cadence is up by 5 strokes as of this morning and my body feels much better when I get off the bike. I'm confident that as I get stronger from learning to spin more that I will also see increases in speed and cadence.

For those of us who are weight conscious I removed a FSA SLK Carbon 170mm 30/39/52 with a stock BB and believe it or not the weight is identical, so no gain or loss.

If you've been thinking about shorter cranks or Q rings, get off the fence and spend the money. I am now finally convinced it was worth every penny I spent.

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Reply #647 - Oct 8^th, 2016, 3:32pm

Quote from Phantom Rider on Oct 8^th, 2016, 11:38am:

I finally wised up and followed the advice of several wise people on this forum and others. I have purchased from bike smith a set of SRAM APex 150mm cranks set up with 36/52 Rotor Q rings.

I have to say this is probably the best add on purchase I have ever made to a bike. The difference in my pedal stroke is truly phenomenal, it is so smooth that I am in awe when riding it. I have made comments before about knee pain and jay on several occasions has said "you need to try shorter cranks", wish I had listened a long time ago.

Mark Stonich is an amazing guy and was very patient in guiding me through the decision process. The guidance Mark provided as to setup and how to adjust my seat(CA2) was spot on. I followed his directions and had the bike set in the perfect position for me in about 10 minutes.

Yesterday I logged 28 miles and another 60 this morning with NO KNEE PAIN at all. I haven't seen any significant change in speed but my cadence is up by 5 strokes as of this morning and my body feels much better when I get off the bike. I'm confident that as I get stronger from learning to spin more that I will also see increases in speed and cadence.

For those of us who are weight conscious I removed a FSA SLK Carbon 170mm 30/39/52 with a stock BB and believe it or not the weight is identical, so no gain or loss.

If you've been thinking about shorter cranks or Q rings, get off the fence and spend the money. I am now finally convinced it was worth every penny I spent.

Joe, there's no info on the Bikesmith website regarding setting the seat position (or boom length for fixed seat recumbents). What guidance did Mark give you on that subject?

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Reply #648 - Oct 8^th, 2016, 7:21pm

Quote from jayg on Oct 8^th, 2016, 3:32pm:

Quote from Phantom Rider on Oct 8^th, 2016, 11:38am:

I finally wised up and followed the advice of several wise people on this forum and others. I have purchased from bike smith a set of SRAM APex 150mm cranks set up with 36/52 Rotor Q rings.

I have to say this is probably the best add on purchase I have ever made to a bike. The difference in my pedal stroke is truly phenomenal, it is so smooth that I am in awe when riding it. I have made comments before about knee pain and jay on several occasions has said "you need to try shorter cranks", wish I had listened a long time ago.

Mark Stonich is an amazing guy and was very patient in guiding me through the decision process. The guidance Mark provided as to setup and how to adjust my seat(CA2) was spot on. I followed his directions and had the bike set in the perfect position for me in about 10 minutes.

Yesterday I logged 28 miles and another 60 this morning with NO KNEE PAIN at all. I haven't seen any significant change in speed but my cadence is up by 5 strokes as of this morning and my body feels much better when I get off the bike. I'm confident that as I get stronger from learning to spin more that I will also see increases in speed and cadence.

For those of us who are weight conscious I removed a FSA SLK Carbon 170mm 30/39/52 with a stock BB and believe it or not the weight is identical, so no gain or loss.

If you've been thinking about shorter cranks or Q rings, get off the fence and spend the money. I am now finally convinced it was worth every penny I spent.

Joe, there's no info on the Bikesmith website regarding setting the seat position (or boom length for fixed seat recumbents). What guidance did Mark give you on that subject?

Jay, Marks guidance was very straightforward. Divide the amount of the distance between the old cranks and the new ones by 2 and move the seat back (or boom forward)that distance. In my case I went from 170 to 150 so I moved the seat back 10mm. Mark said once this is done ride the bike about a mile or so and move either the seat or boom that distance (in my case 10mm) again and ride again. At this point you should know which feels best and that is your solution. For me the first 10mm was perfect and I now have about 90 miles on that setting. I have not adjusted the seat incline as it went from 22 to 23 degrees and I plan to leave it there for awhile.

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Reply #649 - Oct 14^th, 2016, 7:00pm

Enduro XD-15 ceramic BB

Received and installed the new BB yesterday evening to complete my drive train upgrade. Rode a short 30 miler today just to see what the difference is. I do not ride with a power meter so there is no hard data to prove anything, I wonder how that would prove anything anyway since power is just power and would have no bearing(that was funny) on how the power was generated. I am confident I can feel the difference in the ease of the crank rotation, even beyond the greatness of the 150mm cranks and Q rings. I've read and been told by others it takes about 50 miles to "break in" a ceramic BB so who knows what tomorrow holds for me.

Truly wish I would have completed this drive train upgrade long ago when I first started researching it. I continue to be amazed in the difference in my energy output and smoothness of the pedal stroke.

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Reply #650 - Oct 15^th, 2016, 7:15am

Bought and installed a set of Tryker tires on Terrie's Tour II, to smooth out the ride for her. I had originally put 1.1" Duranos on it, thinking it would help her speed, but, she doesn't ride it enough to take advantage, and the 100 psi made it a rough ride. The Trykers are 1.5", ~70 psi, and they seem to still roll pretty nicely. They're folding bead, not wire, so aren't as heavy as a Marathon.

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Reply #651 - Oct 15^th, 2016, 6:39pm

Was thinking about installing some 700c x 25 mm Schwalbe One clincher tires on my Metaphysic, since I've been pleased with the performance of the Schwalbe Ones on my Ice VTX+ trike. Then, I read a tire test report that showed cheaper 700c x 25, 320 TPI Vittoria Open Corsa CX-III tires, paired with latex tubes, slightly out perform Schwalbe One clinchers. It was reported the Vittoria tires provide near tubless tire performance. So, I ordered a set of Vittoria tires and latex tubes. Replaced the Meta's Specialized 127 TPI, 700c x 25 tires and butyl tubes with the Vittoria tires and tubes last night, and did a 40-mile ride in Plano this morning with the tires inflated to 115 psi (Had been inflating the Specialized tires to 95 psi). The Meta is probably the roughest riding bike I own, due to its stiffness and short wheelbase. It definitely rode smoother with the Vittoria tire/latex tube combination. Was there an improvement in speed, since the Vittoria tire/tube combination has lower rolling resistance than the Specialized tire/tube combination? Not sure. There are two long downhills on the ride route where I just coast. Today on a N. Plano Rd. downhill, the bike coasted 1.9 mph faster than on a previous ride (31.5 vs. 29.6 mph). On a Los Rios Blvd. downhill the bike coasted 6 mph faster than on the previous ride (32.7 vs. 26.4 mph). The uncertainty is due to the fact that there was a tailwind on today's ride, and there might not have been one on the previous ride.

The rest of my day, yesterday, was ruined when after weighing the tire/tube combinations, I found out the Vittoria set (2 tires and tubes) weighed 3 oz. more than the Specialized set. Arggg! I swear I could feel that extra 3 oz. on every hill I climbed, today. Cheesy

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Bud_Bent Moderator Posts: 3310	Re: W.I.B.T. Thread Reply #652 - Oct 23^rd, 2016, 11:55am It's a WAW@2014
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reever rbent member Posts: 459	Re: W.I.B.T. Thread Reply #653 - Oct 23^rd, 2016, 1:35pm Gee, Bud. You really should put a picture of the rear end of that thing, because that's all we will be seeing of it!!! Really nice!
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Bud_Bent Moderator Posts: 3310	Re: W.I.B.T. Thread Reply #654 - Oct 24^th, 2016, 11:33am Quote from reever on Oct 23^rd, 2016, 1:35pm: Gee, Bud. You really should put a picture of the rear end of that thing, because that's all we will be seeing of it!!! Really nice! Thanks, man. But, I suspect you'll still be dropping me like a bad habit.
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jayg Five Star Member rbent member Posts: 4125	Re: W.I.B.T. Thread Reply #656 - Nov 13^th, 2016, 5:25pm Quote from FlyingLaZBoy on Nov 13^th, 2016, 4:38pm: http://i977.photobucket.com/albums/ae256/pbrown8js/Sprintx.jpg Super nice trike, Paul. Unsuspended, 10-speed, and 700c rear wheel?
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FlyingLaZBoy Moderator '16 ICE SprintX fs, '16 Rocket, '12 KHS Mocha Posts: 5803	Re: W.I.B.T. Thread Reply #657 - Nov 14^th, 2016, 9:17am Quote from jayg on Nov 13^th, 2016, 5:25pm: Super nice trike, Paul. Unsuspended, 10-speed, and 700c rear wheel? Fully suspended version, but otherwise correct! I should have it next week, in time for some Thanksgiving riding! PB
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Reply #658 - Nov 14^th, 2016, 7:56pm

Quote from FlyingLaZBoy on Nov 14^th, 2016, 9:17am:

Quote from jayg on Nov 13^th, 2016, 5:25pm:

Super nice trike, Paul. Unsuspended, 10-speed, and 700c rear wheel?

Fully suspended version, but otherwise correct! I should have it next week, in time for some Thanksgiving riding!

PB

This answers my question in the for sale thread...

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Action Lad Five Star Member rbent member Posts: 1570	Re: W.I.B.T. Thread Reply #659 - Nov 19^th, 2016, 9:52pm Quote from FlyingLaZBoy on Nov 13^th, 2016, 4:38pm: http://i977.photobucket.com/albums/ae256/pbrown8js/Sprintx.jpg Yeah, Baby! Nice looking trike. Can't wait to see you on it. Still having trouble imagining you on three wheels, though. I'll have to be Doubting Thomas and believe it when I see it.
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